RE: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-05 Thread l.wood
...@sap.com] Sent: 05 July 2013 02:06 To: Martin J. Dürst Cc: i...@ietf.org; Barry Leiba; IETF discussion list; IAB; Working Group Chairs Subject: Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended Martin J. Dürst wrote: On 2013/07/04 9:39, Barry Leiba wrote: Registration for IETF87 in Berlin has been suspended

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-05 Thread Elwyn Davies
On Fri, 2013-07-05 at 00:11 -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote: From: John Levine jo...@taugh.com what's different in Berlin from Paris and Prague and Maastricht. The Germans have more 'zealous' tax collectors? :-) Noel It appears that the goalposts have been moved - the basic change

RE: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-05 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, July 05, 2013 07:40 +0100 l.w...@surrey.ac.uk wrote: It strikes me that 'membership fees' as opposed to 'entrance fees' could work around this payment issue. Or incur a different tax... But the use of a term like membership fee has profound implications for what the IETF claims

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-05 Thread Tim Chown
On 5 Jul 2013, at 15:30, John C Klensin j...@jck.com wrote: --On Friday, July 05, 2013 07:40 +0100 l.w...@surrey.ac.uk wrote: It strikes me that 'membership fees' as opposed to 'entrance fees' could work around this payment issue. Or incur a different tax... But the use of a term like

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-05 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Understandable. After all, they need to bail out whole countries on a regular basis :) On 7/5/13 1:11 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: From: John Levine jo...@taugh.com what's different in Berlin from Paris and Prague and Maastricht. The Germans have more 'zealous' tax collectors? :-)

RE: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-04 Thread Murphy, Sandra
03, 2013 5:31 PM To: IETF Announcement List Cc: i...@ietf.org; i...@iab.org; ietf@ietf.org; wgcha...@ietf.org Subject: IETF 87 Registration Suspended Registration for IETF87 in Berlin has been suspended to consider the impact of a change in the VAT rules on Registration Fees. We expect

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-04 Thread Martin Rex
Martin J. Dürst wrote: On 2013/07/04 9:39, Barry Leiba wrote: Registration for IETF87 in Berlin has been suspended to consider the impact of a change in the VAT rules on Registration Fees. We expect registration to open as soon as this matter has been clarified. I don't understand what the

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-04 Thread Martin Rex
Martin Rex wrote: Martin J. Dürst wrote: On 2013/07/04 9:39, Barry Leiba wrote: Registration for IETF87 in Berlin has been suspended to consider the impact of a change in the VAT rules on Registration Fees. We expect registration to open as soon as this matter has been clarified.

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-04 Thread John Levine
It seems that the rules might be somewhat similar all over europe: http://www.tmf-vat.com/vat/german-vat.html You would think so, which leads to the question about what's different in Berlin from Paris and Prague and Maastricht. R's, John

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-04 Thread David Morris
On Thu, 5 Jul 2013, John Levine wrote: It seems that the rules might be somewhat similar all over europe: http://www.tmf-vat.com/vat/german-vat.html You would think so, which leads to the question about what's different in Berlin from Paris and Prague and Maastricht. Somebody asked

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-04 Thread Noel Chiappa
From: John Levine jo...@taugh.com what's different in Berlin from Paris and Prague and Maastricht. The Germans have more 'zealous' tax collectors? :-) Noel

IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-03 Thread IETF Administrative Director
Registration for IETF87 in Berlin has been suspended to consider the impact of a change in the VAT rules on Registration Fees. We expect registration to open as soon as this matter has been clarified. Ray IETF Administrative Director

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-03 Thread Barry Leiba
Registration for IETF87 in Berlin has been suspended to consider the impact of a change in the VAT rules on Registration Fees. We expect registration to open as soon as this matter has been clarified. I don't understand what the effect of VAT rules is on money collected in the U.S. in U.S.

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-03 Thread Martin J. Dürst
Hello Barry, On 2013/07/04 9:39, Barry Leiba wrote: Registration for IETF87 in Berlin has been suspended to consider the impact of a change in the VAT rules on Registration Fees. We expect registration to open as soon as this matter has been clarified. I don't understand what the effect of

IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-03 Thread IETF Administrative Director
Registration for IETF87 in Berlin has been suspended to consider the impact of a change in the VAT rules on Registration Fees. We expect registration to open as soon as this matter has been clarified. Ray IETF Administrative Director