Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-repute-query-http-09.txt (A Reputation Query Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-30 Thread Bob Braden
CR LF was first adopted for the Telnet NVT (Network Virtual Terminal). I think it was Jon Postel's choice, and no one disagreed. Then when FTP was defined, it seemed most economical to use the same. In fact, doesn't the FTP spec explicitly say that the conventions on the control connection

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-repute-query-http-09.txt (A Reputation Query Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-30 Thread Hector Santos
John, I don't think it would of been fun designing and testing a text-based hosting protocol manually with your terminal/telecommunication/telnet client New Line Mode (add LF to CR) option disabled or server text responses only issue CR or LF. It would of been very hard or confusing to do

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-repute-query-http-09.txt (A Reputation Query Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-30 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, August 30, 2013 09:56 -0700 Bob Braden bra...@isi.edu wrote: CR LF was first adopted for the Telnet NVT (Network Virtual Terminal). I think it was Jon Postel's choice, and no one disagreed. A tad more complicated, IIR. It turns out that, with some systems interpreting LF as

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-repute-query-http-09.txt (A Reputation Query Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-29 Thread SM
Hi Murray, At 01:14 21-08-2013, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: Ah. I realize that CRLF is standard line termination for SMTP; is it automatically the expected line termination for all line-oriented protocols? I don't know about others. I would have to write a long answer to that question. :-)

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-repute-query-http-09.txt (A Reputation Query Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-29 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:57 AM, SM s...@resistor.net wrote: Hi Murray, At 01:14 21-08-2013, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: Ah. I realize that CRLF is standard line termination for SMTP; is it automatically the expected line termination for all line-oriented protocols? I don't know about

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-repute-query-http-09.txt (A Reputation Query Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-21 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:13 AM, SM s...@resistor.net wrote: The draft-iet-repute-model reference is a down-ref. I agree, the model document should be considered for PS instead. A server receiving a query about an application it does not recognize or explicitly support support

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-repute-query-http-09.txt (A Reputation Query Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-21 Thread SM
At 23:53 20-08-2013, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: I don't believe so. The only cases we can think of are those where the supported application does or does not exist, and the service being queried does or does not have data about the subject. Elsewhere we describe that there's a specific

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-repute-query-http-09.txt (A Reputation Query Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-21 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:43 AM, SM s...@resistor.net wrote: Why is that? The media type is text/plain. Ah. I realize that CRLF is standard line termination for SMTP; is it automatically the expected line termination for all line-oriented protocols? I don't know about others. -MSK

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-repute-query-http-09.txt (A Reputation Query Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-15 Thread SM
At 07:41 15-08-2013, The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from the Reputation Services WG (repute) to consider the following document: - 'A Reputation Query Protocol' draft-ietf-repute-query-http-09.txt as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks,