R: RE: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-14 Thread erminio.ottone...@libero.it
To: erminio.ottone...@libero.it; l...@pi.nu; Rui Costa Cc: m...@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org; IETF-Announce Subject: RE: [mpls] R: Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile

R: RE: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-14 Thread erminio.ottone...@libero.it
Backwards compatibility This was the main argument risen to ground MPLS-TP OAM on BFD. It's not a better argument than grounding MPLS-TP OAM on 1731 due to its ETH deployment plus coherence with SDH, OTN, as defended by ITU-T. For reasons like the above, however, MPLS-TP BFD won't be

RE: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-14 Thread Rui Costa
; IETF-Announce Cc: m...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [mpls] R: Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard Hi Erminio: snipped Several service providers regarded

R: RE: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-14 Thread erminio.ottone...@libero.it
To: erminio.ottone...@libero.it; l...@pi.nu; Rui Costa Cc: m...@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; IETF-Announce Subject: RE: [mpls] R: Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile

R: RE: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-14 Thread erminio.ottone...@libero.it
Backwards compatibility This was the main argument risen to ground MPLS-TP OAM on BFD. It's not a better argument than grounding MPLS-TP OAM on 1731 due to its ETH deployment plus coherence with SDH, OTN, as defended by ITU-T. For reasons like the above, however, MPLS-TP BFD won't be

RE: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-11 Thread David Allan I
To: erminio.ottone...@libero.it; l...@pi.nu; Rui Costa Cc: m...@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org; IETF-Announce Subject: RE: [mpls] R: Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed

RE: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-11 Thread neil.2.harrison
: Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi- 05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard Hi Erminio: Two of the three document editors were present at SG15 plenary in February where

RE: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-11 Thread David Allan I
; ietf@ietf.org; IETF- Announce Cc: m...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [mpls] R: Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi- 05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard Hi Erminio: snipped Several service

RE: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-11 Thread neil.2.harrison
[mailto:david.i.al...@ericsson.com] Sent: quarta-feira, 6 de Julho de 2011 19:25 To: erminio.ottone...@libero.it; Rui Costa; ietf@ietf.org; IETF- Announce Cc: m...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [mpls] R: Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi- 05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification

RE: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-11 Thread David Allan I
-rdi- 05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard Hi Erminio: Two of the three document editors were present at SG15 plenary in February where the comments originated. The revised meeting

RE: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-11 Thread neil.2.harrison
2011 19:25 To: erminio.ottone...@libero.it; Rui Costa; ietf@ietf.org; IETF- Announce Cc: m...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [mpls] R: Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi- 05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport

RE: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-08 Thread John E Drake
Subject: RE: [mpls] R: Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi- 05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard Hi Erminio: Two of the three document editors were present at SG15 plenary

RE: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-08 Thread neil.2.harrison
Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi- 05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard Hi Erminio: snipped Several service providers regarded this draft as not meeting their transport networks' needs

RE: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-08 Thread neil.2.harrison
@ietf.org; IETF- Announce Cc: m...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [mpls] R: Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv- rdi- 05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard Hi Erminio: snipped

Re: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-08 Thread Thomas Nadeau
-tp-cc-cv-rdi- 05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard Hi Erminio: snipped Several service providers regarded this draft as not meeting their transport networks' needs. E This is a true

RE: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-08 Thread John E Drake
To: erminio.ottone...@libero.it; l...@pi.nu; Rui Costa Cc: m...@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org; IETF-Announce Subject: RE: [mpls] R: Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv- rdi- 05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile

R: Re: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-07 Thread erminio.ottone...@libero.it
Version -04 of the document was published June 28th. The publication request for draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi was sent June 29th. So when the WG LC to confirm the LC comment resolution has been launched? The proto write-up says: It has also passed a working roup call to

R: Re: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-07 Thread erminio.ottone...@libero.it
The way this draft has been developed is a bit strange. The poll for its adoption as a WG document was halted by the MPLS WG chair because it is not possible to judge consensus: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mpls/current/msg04502.html The lack of consensus was motivated by serious

RE: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-07 Thread Rui Costa
: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard Hi Erminio: snipped Several service providers regarded this draft as not meeting their transport networks' needs. E

RE: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-06 Thread David Allan I
Hi Rui: The comments were not ignored, the resolution of the Q10 comments as well as those collected from the MPLS WG was presented at the last IETF. My spreadsheet from which that report was generated and has been augmented to include the BFD WG comments is available at

Re: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-06 Thread Loa Andersson
All, Since someone has commented about the process used for resolving questions on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi I am supplying some details below. The history of draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi working group review process is: On February 3rd 2011 the working group last call was issued on

RE: [mpls] Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-05.txt (Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check and Remote Defect indication for MPLS Transport Profile) to Proposed Standard

2011-07-04 Thread Rui Costa
IMHO and for the record: ITU-T comments regarding this draft haven't been discussed with ITU-T but were simply ignored. No LS describing these comments' resolution was sent. Several service providers regarded this draft as not meeting their transport networks' needs. [The v03