Re: Call for Review of draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04.txt, The IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship

2013-06-12 Thread IAB Chair
The Call for Review has been extended to 4 July 2013. Please send comment to iab (at) iab.org or enter a ticket in TRAC. A new ticket can be entered: - using http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iab/trac/newticket - select the component of /home/ietf/id/draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04.txt On behalf of

Re: Call for Review of draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04.txt, The IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship

2013-06-12 Thread IAB Chair
The Call for Review has been extended to 4 July 2013. Please send comment to iab (at) iab.org or enter a ticket in TRAC. A new ticket can be entered: - using http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iab/trac/newticket - select the component of /home/ietf/id/draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04.txt On behalf of

RE: Call for Review of draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04.txt, The IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship

2013-06-09 Thread Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
Hi Steve, We shall ask the question, but I can already guess the answers. Current IEEE rules (copyright rules I think) do not allow for sharing of work-in-progress drafts with no access control. You need to be a participant of some sort in order to access such documents, and this validated

Re: Call for Review of draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04.txt, The IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship

2013-06-06 Thread Stephen Farrell
A couple of minor comments: - For some unfathomable reason IEEE people seem to call mailing lists reflectors - that might be worth a mention. Section 4 otherwise seems repetitive. - 3.3.1.4 says: Since it is possible to participate in IETF without attending meetings, or even joining a

RE: Call for Review of draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04.txt, The IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship

2013-06-06 Thread l.wood
Asking IETF WG chairs to deal with passwords is a bit silly. Maybe they could be emailed a monthly reminder of their personal subscription password on the first of each month. Lloyd Wood http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/ From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org

RE: Call for Review of draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04.txt, The IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship

2013-06-06 Thread SM
At 20:01 05-06-2013, l.w...@surrey.ac.uk wrote: RFC2031 documented the takeover. Snuck through on informational... It's part of the poorly documented historical facts which happened after some IETF financial woes. I read draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04 again. Section 1 mentions that: This

RE: Call for Review of draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04.txt, The IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship

2013-06-06 Thread Peter Yee
In Section 3.3.1.5: IEEE 802 standards, once approved, are published and made available for sale. This could be a cultural difference. RFC 6852 glosses over that (see Standards specifications are made accessible to all for implementation and deployment.) IEEE 802 standards are made

Re: Call for Review of draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04.txt, The IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship

2013-06-06 Thread Spencer Dawkins
On 6/6/2013 8:12 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote: - 3.3.1.4 says: Since it is possible to participate in IETF without attending meetings, or even joining a mailing list, IETF WG chairs will provide the information to anyone who requests it. However, since IEEE 802 work-in-progress is

Re: Call for Review of draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04.txt, The IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship

2013-06-05 Thread SM
At 11:50 05-06-2013, IAB Chair wrote: This is a call for review of The IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship prior to potential approval as an IAB stream RFC. In Section 1: This document contains a set of principles and guidelines that serves as the basis for establishing collaboration between

Re: Call for Review of draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04.txt, The IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship

2013-06-05 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
Reply to your request dated 05.06.2013 Reviewer: Abdussalam Baryun Dated 06.06.2013 The I-D: draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04 A1 Comments: Overall Overall, why does the document start with IEEE before IETF. If this is a document produced by us as IETF, we need to focus on the relationship of OUR

Re: Call for Review of draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04.txt, The IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship

2013-06-05 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
I want to discuss this issue of collaboration if I get a response/permission. How can the IETF participant collaborate with IEEE 802 memebr/participant? From the I-D I see that the IETF participant NEEDs the IETF WG chair to do that, but the IEEE 802 participant does not need any chair. Are we

RE: Call for Review of draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04.txt, The IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship

2013-06-05 Thread l.wood
Is the IETF a task force of the Internet Society? RFC2031 documented the takeover. Snuck through on informational... Lloyd Wood http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/ From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of SM [s...@resistor.net] Sent: 06