Re: Gather Profiles/Resumes [was Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process]

2013-05-16 Thread Keith Moore
On 05/15/2013 12:25 PM, Thomas Narten wrote: I don't think the IETF needs to be in the profile/resume business. There are plenty of other places that do a fine job already. What I do think the IETF should do is *require* that participants identify themselves. That means knowing who they are (a

Re: Gather Profiles/Resumes [was Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process]

2013-05-16 Thread Dale R. Worley
From: Thomas Narten nar...@us.ibm.com What I do think the IETF should do is *require* that participants identify themselves. That means knowing who they are (a name and email contact) and an affiliation. For 80% of the participants, this info is not very hard to figure out (see below). But

Re: Gather Profiles/Resumes [was Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process]

2013-05-15 Thread Thomas Narten
I don't think the IETF needs to be in the profile/resume business. There are plenty of other places that do a fine job already. What I do think the IETF should do is *require* that participants identify themselves. That means knowing who they are (a name and email contact) and an affiliation. For

Re: Gather Profiles/Resumes [was Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process]

2013-05-15 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 18:25 +0200 Thomas Narten nar...@us.ibm.com wrote: I don't think the IETF needs to be in the profile/resume business. There are plenty of other places that do a fine job already. What I do think the IETF should do is *require* that participants identify

Re: Gather Profiles/Resumes [was Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process]

2013-05-15 Thread Doug Ewell
John C Klensin john dash ietf at jck dot com wrote: I think it is all very well to ask for affiliations in principle and, also in principle, I agree that it is a good idea. But, in practice, I think there are a lot of clarifications and other changes that would be required and that might or

RE: Gather Profiles/Resumes [was Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process]

2013-05-15 Thread l.wood
Subject: Re: Gather Profiles/Resumes [was Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process] John C Klensin john dash ietf at jck dot com wrote: I think it is all very well to ask for affiliations in principle and, also in principle, I agree that it is a good idea. But, in practice, I think

Re: Gather Profiles/Resumes [was Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process]

2013-05-15 Thread Thomas Narten
Hi John. I agree there are a number of specific cases where there is no simple/obvious way to handle. I'd be OK with something fairly simple as unaffiliated or consultant or something more nuanced. But I'd like to think those are edge cases (but could of course be wrong in how common they are). I

Re: Gather Profiles/Resumes [was Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process]

2013-05-15 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 05/15/2013 07:38 PM, John C Klensin wrote: So, what would you have me (and others like me) put on registration forms so that I'm not part of that undifferentiated 180 names? How about 7 densely worded paragraphs? Sorry, couldn't resist:-) S.

Re: Gather Profiles/Resumes [was Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process]

2013-05-15 Thread Edwin A. Opare
In all earnestness I don't think a resume will be necessary at all :). -- Regards, Edwin A. Opare On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Stephen Farrell stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie wrote: On 05/15/2013 07:38 PM, John C Klensin wrote: So, what would you have me (and others like me) put on

Re: Gather Profiles/Resumes [was Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process]

2013-05-15 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 14:28 -0700 Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org wrote: ... I did this because the WG at the time included a malicious contributor who had already contacted the HR department of another contributor's employer, asking them to professionally discipline the employee,

Re: Gather Profiles/Resumes [was Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process]

2013-05-05 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, May 03, 2013 18:10 -0400 Hector Santos hsan...@isdg.net wrote: May I suggest that the IETF produce a web site for gathering IETF participants profiles and even resumes. It can have a questionnaire to extract the valuable information that will help maximize the IETF/IESG

Re: Gather Profiles/Resumes [was Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process]

2013-05-03 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Hector Santos wrote: May I suggest that the IETF produce a web site for gathering IETF participants profiles and even resumes. It can have a questionnaire to extract the valuable information that will help maximize the IETF/IESG efforts. The Business Information (BI) can then be leveraged