RE: Services and top-level DNS names (was: Re: Update of RFC 2606 based on the recent ICANN changes ?)

2008-07-04 Thread Bernard Aboba
Single label names are local in scope. Attempting to use them in a global context does not work. As the names in . get more interesting the probability of collisions with existing names goes up. Not many people choose two letter labels for the least significant parts of their host names

RE: Services and top-level DNS names (was: Re: Update of RFC 2606 based on the recent ICANN changes ?)

2008-07-04 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, 04 July, 2008 10:49 -0700 Bernard Aboba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Single label names are local in scope. Attempting to use them in a global context does not work. As the names in . get more interesting the probability of collisions with existing names goes up. Not many

RE: Services and top-level DNS names (was: Re: Update of RFC 2606 based on the recent ICANN changes ?)

2008-07-04 Thread Bernard Aboba
Not really. ICANN isn't selling single-label domains. They are selling (and I believe selling is probably now the correct term) plain, ordinary, TLD delegations. If I get one of those and populate the TLD zone only with delegation records, there are no problems with what ICANN has done at

Re: Services and top-level DNS names (was: Re: Update of RFC 2606 based on the recent ICANN changes ?)

2008-07-04 Thread Mark Andrews
So the problem isn't whether some string not listed in 2606 can be allocated, it is how it is used after it is allocated. And _that_ situation has a lot more to do about buyer beware and understanding of conflicting expectations about use than it does about ownership. john I

RE: Services and top-level DNS names (was: Re: Update of RFC 2606 based on the recent ICANN changes ?)

2008-07-04 Thread John C Klensin
Bernard, I'm going to try to respond to both your note and Mark's, using yours as a base because it better reflects my perspective. Before I go on, I think the three of us are in agreement about the situation. The question is what can (or should) be done about it. --On Friday, 04 July, 2008