Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-07.txt (Post-delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email Messages) to Proposed Standard

2012-09-10 Thread Franck Martin
I'm happier, Made comments in another thread on why I believe it opens a security hole wider rather than trying to close it. I guess I could leave with it, when this downgrade is only done from a SMTPUTF8 compatible MTA to an ASCII MTA. I mean a SMTPUTF8 MTA MUST reject such downgrade. Let's

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-07.txt (Post-delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email Messages) to Proposed Standard

2012-09-09 Thread Barry Leiba
The IESG has received a request from the Email Address Internationalization WG (eai) to consider the following document: - 'Post-delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email Messages' draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-07.txt as Proposed Standard Rats; I missed this in earlier

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-07.txt (Post-delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email Messages) to Proposed Standard

2012-09-09 Thread John C Klensin
--On Sunday, September 09, 2012 11:33 -0400 Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org wrote: ... Rats; I missed this in earlier review: -- Section 3.2.1 -- This procedure may generate empty group elements in From:,Sender: and Reply-To: header fields. [I-D.leiba-5322upd-from-group]

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-07.txt (Post-delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email Messages) to Proposed Standard

2012-09-09 Thread Barry Leiba
I think 5322upd-from-group needs to apply to both backward-pointing address types to be effective for what popimap-downgrade needs. I will make the change. I'll also remind the EAI group that there have been a couple of objections to the 5322upd-from-group spec, which I have to address. I

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-07.txt (Post-delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email Messages) to Proposed Standard

2012-09-09 Thread Barry Leiba
I think 5322upd-from-group needs to apply to both backward-pointing address types to be effective for what popimap-downgrade needs. I will make the change. But in any case, the downgrade doc needs to remove reply-to from the list of header fields that 5322upd-from-group changes. Maybe this:

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-07.txt (Post-delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email Messages) to Proposed Standard

2012-09-09 Thread John C Klensin
--On Sunday, September 09, 2012 11:52 -0400 Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org wrote: I think 5322upd-from-group needs to apply to both backward-pointing address types to be effective for what popimap-downgrade needs. I will make the change. I'll also remind the EAI group that there

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-07.txt (Post-delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email Messages) to Proposed Standard

2012-09-09 Thread ned+ietf
The IESG has received a request from the Email Address Internationalization WG (eai) to consider the following document: - 'Post-delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email Messages' draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-07.txt as Proposed Standard Rats; I missed this in

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-07.txt (Post-delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email Messages) to Proposed Standard

2012-09-09 Thread ned+ietf
I think 5322upd-from-group needs to apply to both backward-pointing address types to be effective for what popimap-downgrade needs. I will make the change. But in any case, the downgrade doc needs to remove reply-to from the list of header fields that 5322upd-from-group changes.

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-07.txt (Post-delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email Messages) to Proposed Standard

2012-09-09 Thread Barry Leiba
I will make the change. I'll also remind the EAI group that there have been a couple of objections to the 5322upd-from-group spec, which I have to address. I might do that by scoping it down a bit with some SHOULD NOT use sort of language to address those concerns. Have to review them and

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-07.txt (Post-delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email Messages) to Proposed Standard

2012-09-09 Thread John C Klensin
--On Sunday, September 09, 2012 21:58 + Franck Martin fmar...@linkedin.com wrote: I'm happier, Made comments in another thread on why I believe it opens a security hole wider rather than trying to close it. I guess I could leave with it, when this downgrade is only done from a