Re: Errata against RFC 5226 rejected

2011-12-09 Thread Stewart Bryant
On 08/12/2011 18:51, Russ Housley wrote: Errata 2684 was entered against RFC 5226, Guidelines for Writing an IANA Considerations Section in RFCs. After discussion with one of the RFC authors and IANA staff, I rejected the errata. The errata author is saying that in many registries, there are

Re: Errata against RFC 5226 rejected

2011-12-08 Thread Thomas Narten
As background, the actual errata is at http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5226eid=2715 In it Julian suggests (wdiff shows the proposed text changes): 5) Initial assignments and reservations. Clear instructions [-should-] {+SHALL+} be provided to identify any initial

RE: Errata against RFC 5226 rejected

2011-12-08 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
-Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Narten Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:02 AM To: Russ Housley Cc: IETF; i...@iesg.org Subject: Re: Errata against RFC 5226 rejected I don't see the need for this. should seems

Re: Errata against RFC 5226 rejected

2011-12-08 Thread Benson Schliesser
I agree, and I think the original text is a better description of the requirement. Cheers, -Benson On Dec 8, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Thomas Narten wrote: As background, the actual errata is at http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5226eid=2715 In it Julian suggests (wdiff shows the

Re: Errata against RFC 5226 rejected

2011-12-08 Thread Barry Leiba
Errata 2684 was entered against RFC 5226, Guidelines for Writing an IANA Considerations Section in RFCs.  After discussion with one of the RFC authors and IANA staff, I rejected the errata. The errata author is saying that in many registries, there are no unreserved values.  For registries

Re: Errata against RFC 5226 rejected

2011-12-08 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 12/8/11 12:18 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: That said, the best I can see for this report is held for document update. It's one of those things that's not worth spending time on, and, as Thomas says, the should language makes it fine as it is. +1. There's work happening in the background on

Re: Errata against RFC 5226 rejected

2011-12-08 Thread John Levine
In other words, I don't see a problem with the existing text that warrants bothering with an errata. If IANA isn't able to figure out what they need to do under the current wording, we have problems that no amount of word twiddling can fix. R's, John PS: The last time I checked, it wasn't a

Re: Errata against RFC 5226 rejected

2011-12-08 Thread Fred Baker
On Dec 8, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Russ Housley wrote: Errata 2684 was entered against RFC 5226, Guidelines for Writing an IANA Considerations Section in RFCs. After discussion with one of the RFC authors and IANA staff, I rejected the errata. The errata author is saying that in many

Re: Errata against RFC 5226 rejected

2011-12-08 Thread John C Klensin
--On Thursday, December 08, 2011 14:02 -0500 Thomas Narten nar...@us.ibm.com wrote: As background, the actual errata is at http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5226eid=2715 ... I don't see the need for this. should seems good enough for me. Also, the wording any ranges that are

Re: Errata against RFC 5226 rejected

2011-12-08 Thread Stewart Bryant
On 08/12/2011 19:18, Barry Leiba wrote: Errata 2684 was entered against RFC 5226, Guidelines for Writing an IANA Considerations Section in RFCs. After discussion with one of the RFC authors and IANA staff, I rejected the errata. The errata author is saying that in many registries, there are no

Re: Errata against RFC 5226 rejected

2011-12-08 Thread Barry Leiba
In a small registry like this, it is useful to have something in the box in the table that makes it less likely that the value will be squatted on. In the above example it is clearer in the 0..7 case that there are only two free values and I will need a real good use case. In the 0..5