Re: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history.....

2003-01-13 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
just to be clear - I was thinking of porn sites using the HTTP protocol for access. Best so far: Paul Hoffman thinks that the first one was called Adult Action, and probably predated the official Mosaic release. But that search term is too general for the Internet of today (8240 hits

Re: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history.....

2003-01-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
By June and July of 1994 people were trying adult http sites. I'm afraid it's not clear how long before this these sites actually existed. I can tell you that there were very few adult sites in 1994. By 1996 the formula and format for such sites was pretty well fixed and that same formula

Re: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history.....

2003-01-13 Thread Zefram
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why the creation of the first porn site is a depressing moment I'm not sure. A few years ago I found myself wondering why most commercial websites are so garish, flashy, fragmented, and awkward to navigate. I came to the conclusion that they'd all taken their stylistic

Re: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history.....

2003-01-13 Thread grenville armitage
Franck Martin wrote: [..] An interesting subject for a thesis: The Porn and The Internet. Sub-titled The Beauties and The Beasts ? cheers, gja

Re: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history.....

2003-01-13 Thread Dan Riley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the first couple years of the web, adult sites financed it's development. In 1997 and 1998 90% of commerce on the web was adult related. The first few years of the web were financed by government funded research laboratories--initially CERN in

Re: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history.....

2003-01-13 Thread Simon Spero
Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: I just wonder: does anyone know/remember when the first Web porn site came online? I believe Kapor's law was first stated at the January '92 Usenix (The first use for any new communications technology is sex). Anyone remember the day when someone found a

Re: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history.....

2003-01-13 Thread Matt Crawford
An interesting subject for a thesis: The Porn and The Internet. Sub-titled The Beauties and The Beasts ? Watch it. One fuzzball joke and I am outta here.

Re: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history.....

2003-01-13 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 19:51:51 GMT, Lloyd Wood said: Simon Spero wrote: I believe Kapor's law was first stated at the January '92 Usenix (The first use for any new communications technology is sex). any SUCCESSFUL communications technology, surely? This must mean that 3G phones are

Re: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history.....

2003-01-13 Thread Scott W Brim
I have a vague recollection that CU-SeeMe was used for porn in late 1993. We were so innocent, we thought people would use it for conferencing.

Re: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history.....

2003-01-13 Thread Franck Martin
On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 07:51, Lloyd Wood wrote: Simon Spero wrote: I believe Kapor's law was first stated at the January '92 Usenix (The first use for any new communications technology is sex). any SUCCESSFUL communications technology, surely? Well before that, the French had the

Re: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history.....

2003-01-13 Thread Pekka Savola
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Scott W Brim wrote: I have a vague recollection that CU-SeeMe was used for porn in late 1993. We were so innocent, we thought people would use it for conferencing. Speaking of technologies, has porn ever been multicast? Could have been a killer application in those

Re: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history.....

2003-01-12 Thread Peter Deutsch
g'day, There was also a certain amount of piggybacking onto legitimate open FTP sites to deliver porn going on for a while that predated the web by years. Back in those more innocent days some folks actually left their incoming FTP directories open and apparently there arose an on-demand file

Re: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history.....

2003-01-12 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Eliot Lear writes: If you are looking for the first site that spoke HTTP, then I don't know. On the other hand, as we know there has been a history of development surrounding Internet porn. First of all, there were the various newsgroups, and the various

RE: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history.....

2003-01-12 Thread Franck Martin
-Original Message- From: Steven M. Bellovin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 13 January 2003 1:38 To: Eliot Lear Cc: Harald Tveit Alvestrand; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history. In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Eliot

Re: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history.....

2003-01-12 Thread Peter Deutsch
g'day, Franck Martin wrote: -Original Message- From: Steven M. Bellovin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 13 January 2003 1:38 To: Eliot Lear Cc: Harald Tveit Alvestrand; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history