Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-05 Thread Azhar Sayeed
Shouldn't this document be referred to MPLS WG and PWE3 WG so that we can discuss the merits and demerits of allocating yet another request for the code point... The name of the document suggests it has to do with the official ITU request for a code point ..but nowhere in the document does it

Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-05 Thread l...@pi.nu
All, It is up to the sponsoring AD to decide on the review process. The mpls wg co-chairs will discuss this this week, and we'll let the AD know what we think. With my wg chair hat off I have to say that more review is better than less. I assume that the will inform us of the review process

RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-04 Thread Weingarten, Yaacov (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
[mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Huub helvoort Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 11:17 PM To: Adrian Farrel Cc: draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-po...@tools.ietf.org; The IESG; Ietf@ietf.org Subject: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt Document Writeup for draft-betts

Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-04 Thread t.petch
: ext t.petch [mailto:daedu...@btconnect.com] Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 7:44 PM To: Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon); stbry...@cisco.com; Adrian Farrel Cc: iesg; ietf Subject: Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt - Original Message - From: Sprecher

RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-03 Thread Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
To: Adrian Farrel Cc: draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-po...@tools.ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; Ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt Adrian It is the opinion of the document shepherd that discussion of this document on the working group lists would

RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-03 Thread Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
To: stbry...@cisco.com; Adrian Farrel Cc: draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-po...@tools.ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; Ietf@ietf.org Subject: RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt Hi, I fully support Stewart! G.8113.1 proposes a OAM solution for MPLS-TP networks. It uses the MPLS EtherType

RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-03 Thread Adrian Farrel
...@tools.ietf.org; The IESG; Ietf@ietf.org Subject: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt Document Writeup for draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt As required by RFC-to-be draft-iesg-sponsoring-guidelines, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up

Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-03 Thread t.petch
:55 PM To: Adrian Farrel Cc: draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-po...@tools.ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; Ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt Adrian It is the opinion of the document shepherd that discussion of this document on the working group lists

RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-03 Thread Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
PM To: Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon); stbry...@cisco.com; Adrian Farrel Cc: iesg; ietf Subject: Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt - Original Message - From: Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon) nurit.sprec...@nsn.com To: stbry...@cisco.com; Adrian

Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-02 Thread Stewart Bryant
Adrian It is the opinion of the document shepherd that discussion of this document on the working group lists would be a distraction from the technical protocol work that the working groups need to do. I disagree with the document shepherd in his evaluation. The draft clearly sets out to

RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-02 Thread John E Drake
...@tools.ietf.org; The IESG; Ietf@ietf.org Subject: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt Document Writeup for draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt As required by RFC-to-be draft-iesg-sponsoring-guidelines, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up

RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-02 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, December 02, 2011 04:17 -0800 John E Drake jdr...@juniper.net wrote: Huub, In your email, below, you state: This protocol has been defined in the ITU-T and should not be considered to be a MPLS protocol and therefore should not subject to the provisions of RFC 4929. ...

Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-02 Thread Thomas Nadeau
I disagree with the document shepherd's evaluation of this document. This document sets out to standardize an additional code point to support a type of OAM for MPLS, and as such the MPLS WG must review the document for technical correctness. As far as I understand things, all MPLS

Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-02 Thread t.petch
Original Message - From: Thomas Nadeau tnad...@lucidvision.com To: Huub helvoort huub.van.helvo...@huawei.com Cc: Adrian Farrel adr...@olddog.co.uk; draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-po...@tools.ietf.org; The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org; Ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 2:40 PM

Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-02 Thread Stewart Bryant
On 02/12/2011 13:29, t.petch wrote: Original Message - From: Thomas Nadeautnad...@lucidvision.com To: Huub helvoorthuub.van.helvo...@huawei.com Cc: Adrian Farreladr...@olddog.co.uk; draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-po...@tools.ietf.org; The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org;Ietf@ietf.org Sent:

RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-02 Thread Kyung-Yeop Hong (hongk)
[mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John E Drake Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 7:17 AM To: Huub helvoort; Adrian Farrel Cc: itu-t-liais...@iab.org; draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-po...@tools.ietf.org; The IESG; Ietf@ietf.org Subject: RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-01 Thread Huub helvoort
Document Writeup for draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt As required by RFC-to-be draft-iesg-sponsoring-guidelines, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up for individual submissions via the IESG. Changes are expected over time. This version is dated February 5,