Re: Site selection [Re: reflections from the trenches of ietf62

2005-03-18 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Paul Vixie wrote: In my opinion we need a 200% open process to qualify if a sponsor and venue are acceptable or not. I'm sure Brian will heard us on this ;-) Since site selection involves contract negotiations, I doubt if the actual process can ever be even 100% open. i think that transparency ser

Re: Site selection [Re: reflections from the trenches of ietf62 wireless]

2005-03-16 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Mar 16 2005, at 19:33 Uhr, Dave Crocker wrote: Cheap and easy travel and lodging, for diverse participation I wouldn't want to completely rule out the US that quickly... Gruesse, Carsten (who has had to stand in for a colleague with a Sri Lanka passport on 2 out of 3 IETFs recently) __

Re: Site selection [Re: reflections from the trenches of ietf62 wireless]

2005-03-16 Thread Dave Crocker
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:39:54 +0100, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >  But what can, and IMHO > >  should be, open is the set of technical and logistical criteria >  involved in site selection. What are the primary goals, in defining those criteria? That is, what do we want to have, once we have satisf

Re: Site selection [Re: reflections from the trenches of ietf62

2005-03-16 Thread John Loughney
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Re: Site selection [Re: reflections from the trenches of ietf62

2005-03-16 Thread Paul Vixie
> > In my opinion we need a 200% open process to qualify if a sponsor and > > venue are acceptable or not. I'm sure Brian will heard us on this ;-) > > Since site selection involves contract negotiations, I doubt if the > actual process can ever be even 100% open. i think that transparency serves

Re: Site selection [Re: reflections from the trenches of ietf62 wireless]

2005-03-16 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organización: IBM > Responder a: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Fecha: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:39:54 +0100 > Para: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: "ietf@ietf.org" > Asunto: Site selection [Re: reflections from the trenches of ietf62 wirel

Site selection [Re: reflections from the trenches of ietf62 wireless]

2005-03-16 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Jordi, In my opinion we need a 200% open process to qualify if a sponsor and venue are acceptable or not. I'm sure Brian will heard us on this ;-) Since site selection involves contract negotiations, I doubt if the actual process can ever be even 100% open. But what can, and IMHO should be, open is