Re: Teachable moment

2013-09-09 Thread Jari Arkko
> Absolutely. I have noted at least 20 messages in the recent flood that > mention useful things the IETF can do, which is exactly what my provocative > message asked for. But (as Bruce's own recent posts show) the main weak spots > are not protocols and algorithms. Yes. Jari

Teachable moment

2013-09-06 Thread Brian E Carpenter
hat contingent didn't have > consensus, and we had no data to force the point. As you alluded to > earlier, it's historically been very difficult to get people to treat > security and privacy seriously, and frankly it still is. > > So this isn't an emergency. It&#x