Re: The Friday Report (was Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

2013-08-05 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
I agree with you John, I also not objecting it but wanted more meaning into the report when I receive it, as I suggested before for clarifications. I don't think majority in IETF think it is meaningless so that is why I want to clarify the meaning and discuss what most may not want to discuss. If

Re: The Friday Report (was Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

2013-08-05 Thread Scott Brim
If one or two people are doing most of the posting to a list, that means something is out of balance. Summary statistics can be used as an indicator that something should be done to encourage diversity, or get people back on topic, etc.

Re: The Friday Report (was Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

2013-08-05 Thread Hadriel Kaplan
On Aug 5, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Abdussalam Baryun abdussalambar...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with you John, I also not objecting it but wanted more meaning into the report when I receive it, as I suggested before for clarifications. It's just a weekly posting summary of raw stats - it's not a

Re: The Friday Report (was Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

2013-08-04 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On 3 Aug 2013 11:14, Ole Jacobsen (ole) o...@cisco.com wrote: It was never a distraction until AB started complaining about it. Been serving a useful purpose for many, many years. Procmail is your friend. +1 for that --- Roger --- Ole J. Jacobsen Editor Publisher http://cisco.com/ipj

Re: The Friday Report (was Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

2013-08-04 Thread Loa Andersson
All, If there is a serious drive to discontinue the weekly posting summary - I strongly object. I don't think its main benefit is be to stop excessive or of topic posting. I'm not saying that list managers and list owners should look at that aspect. At least for me it serves as a safety net

Re: The Friday Report (was Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

2013-08-04 Thread John Levine
If there is a serious drive to discontinue the weekly posting summary - I strongly object. As far as I can tell, one person objects, everyone else thinks it's fine. Seems like rough consensus to me. R's, John

Re: The Friday Report (was Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

2013-08-04 Thread Melinda Shore
On 8/4/13 11:53 AM, John Levine wrote: As far as I can tell, one person objects, everyone else thinks it's fine. More to the point, the objections that are being raised appear to be bogus and based in a misunderstanding of how the IETF operates. Melinda

Re: The Friday Report (was Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

2013-08-04 Thread Aaron Yi DING
On 04/08/13 20:53, John Levine wrote: If there is a serious drive to discontinue the weekly posting summary - I strongly object. As far as I can tell, one person objects, everyone else thinks it's fine. Seems like rough consensus to me. +1 Aaron R's, John

Re: The Friday Report (was Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

2013-08-04 Thread Tim Chown
On 4 Aug 2013, at 20:53, John Levine jo...@taugh.com wrote: If there is a serious drive to discontinue the weekly posting summary - I strongly object. As far as I can tell, one person objects, everyone else thinks it's fine. Seems like rough consensus to me. And the code is running… Tim

Re: The Friday Report (was Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

2013-08-04 Thread John C Klensin
--On Sunday, August 04, 2013 19:53 + John Levine jo...@taugh.com wrote: If there is a serious drive to discontinue the weekly posting summary - I strongly object. As far as I can tell, one person objects, everyone else thinks it's fine. I do not want to be recorded as thinking it is

Re: The Friday Report (was Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

2013-08-04 Thread Jari Arkko
First, I'd like to highlight something that is important. There is no inherent preference to posting a lot, a moderate amount, or none at all. Everything depends on context. If you are providing useful input and furthering the discussion, a lot of mails is ok. And no mails can be a problem,

The Friday Report (was Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

2013-08-03 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
On 8/3/13, Patrik Fältström p...@frobbit.se wrote: On 3 aug 2013, at 08:46, Abdussalam Baryun abdussalambar...@gmail.com wrote: I prefer if you post at end of Friday (as in the end of working days of 5 in each week). However, in my comment below I will follow the week as done in world

Re: The Friday Report (was Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

2013-08-03 Thread Heasley
Am Aug 3, 2013 um 9:05 schrieb Abdussalam Baryun abdussalambar...@gmail.com: On 8/3/13, Patrik Fältström p...@frobbit.se wrote: On 3 aug 2013, at 08:46, Abdussalam Baryun abdussalambar...@gmail.com wrote: I prefer if you post at end of Friday (as in the end of working days of 5 in each

Re: The Friday Report (was Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

2013-08-03 Thread Andy Bierman
Hi, I don't care if this report is published or not, but I will point out that the 1 week sample period is not that useful if the intent is to spot excessive posting. Somebody could be following up on 1 thread, and not post again for a year. Somebody could be participating in an IETF Last Call

Re: The Friday Report (was Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

2013-08-03 Thread Ole Jacobsen (ole)
It was never a distraction until AB started complaining about it. Been serving a useful purpose for many, many years. Procmail is your friend. Ole J. Jacobsen Editor Publisher http://cisco.com/ipj Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2013, at 9:12, Heasley h...@shrubbery.net wrote: Am Aug 3, 2013

RE: The Friday Report (was Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

2013-08-03 Thread Adrian Farrel
I prefer if you post at end of Friday (as in the end of working days of 5 in each week). There are seven days in most weeks, in my experience. I suggested to Thomas to submit report in end of Friday I suggest that anyone who wants something different simply writes code for something

Re: [IETF] RE: The Friday Report (was Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

2013-08-03 Thread Warren Kumari
On Aug 3, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Adrian Farrel adr...@olddog.co.uk wrote: I prefer if you post at end of Friday (as in the end of working days of 5 in each week). There are seven days in most weeks, in my experience. I suggested to Thomas to submit report in end of Friday I suggest that

Re: The Friday Report (was Re: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org)

2013-08-03 Thread Scott Brim
On 08/03/13 05:48, Adrian Farrel allegedly wrote: Have you considered not reading it? +1. Especially during IETF week, people on various lists are losing track of their delete key, or the ability to set mail filter rules.