RE: conclusion for ALL YOUR WILDCARDS

2003-09-24 Thread vinton g. cerf
if you do that, I hope you will edit to manageable and understandable proportions... :-/ v At 10:50 PM 9/24/2003 +1000, Laird, James wrote: >Maybe we should put together a summary of the discussion and send it to >ICANN? Vint Cerf SVP Technology Strategy MCI 22001 Loudoun County Parkway, F2-4115

RE: conclusion for ALL YOUR WILDCARDS

2003-09-24 Thread Laird, James
Vint wrote: >if there is a strong ietf consensus that this practice should be ended, >it would be helpful to find a way to express that, to add to the >expressions from iab and secsac. There seems to be only one person on this mailing list who does not agree that the practice is inappropriate. Ma

Re: conclusion for ALL YOUR WILDCARDS

2003-09-24 Thread Masataka Ohta
Keith; Your mistake (or, is it intentional?) is to have narrowed the focus of the discussion that your point is on a minor protocol issue of an e-mail protocol. Yes, you should conclude it. > In general, trying to teach things to people with read-only minds is an > exercise in futility. Exactly

RE: conclusion for ALL YOUR WILDCARDS

2003-09-23 Thread Laird, James
Keith is very right. This discussion is accomplishing nothing. All it is doing is trying to write to read-only minds (nice turn of phrase Keith) and wasting time. The question is - what now? Sit and watch Verisign abuse their custodianship by feeding us advertising? --James Disclaimer: Whilst ev

conclusion for ALL YOUR WILDCARDS

2003-09-23 Thread Keith Moore
folks, It should be obvious by now that there are people who stubbornly believe that Big Companies have the Inalienable Right to screw Hundreds of Millions of Individual Users if it makes them lots of money and if it doesn't happen to violate the letter of an IETF protocol. Presumably those same