report on the wlan difficulties in IETF?

2003-11-19 Thread Jari Arkko
Hello, I wonder if anyone has documented the situation of the IETF wireless network and analyzed the experienced difficulties? I'd be interested in looking at the causes of the difficulties. There's a lot of anecdotal information about the capabilities of the protocols and advice on what to do on

Re: report on the wlan difficulties in IETF?

2003-11-19 Thread Theodore Ts'o
Just as a whimsical notion would it be possible to, ah, invite some of the 802.11* wireless committees to have a colocated meeting with the IETF at some point in the future? We could dangle the offer of free wireless networking, plus an offer for them to see what a real-life, large-scale

Re: report on the wlan difficulties in IETF?

2003-11-19 Thread Brett Thorson
Jari, I will be working on a summary document that pulls together the technical items we witnessed at the meeting. --Brett On Wednesday 19 November 2003 08:15, Jari Arkko wrote: Hello, I wonder if anyone has documented the situation of the IETF wireless network and analyzed the

Re: report on the wlan difficulties in IETF?

2003-11-19 Thread Mike S
At 08:15 AM 11/19/2003, Jari Arkko wrote... Say, its pretty useless to authenticate beacons if the radios are simply swamped by too many nodes who think they are access points This is not a technical issue. By taking advantage of unlicensed frequencies, 802.1a/b/g must not cause interference

Re: report on the wlan difficulties in IETF?

2003-11-19 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Theodore Ts'o writes: It might be interesting to let the 802.11i folks see what life with unathenticated radio beacons is really like. :-) You mean invite them to SAAG and tell the obvious people that it's open season? Nasty --Steve

Re: report on the wlan difficulties in IETF?

2003-11-19 Thread Jari Arkko
Brett Thorson wrote: Jari, I will be working on a summary document that pulls together the technical items we witnessed at the meeting. Great, thanks! Also, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you and the rest of the folks who set up the networks for our meetings. The networks have