Suggestion

2000-10-19 Thread Telecom Regulatory Commission of Sri Lanka
Why cannot IETF arrange Netmeeting sessions. So that all new techniques such as Video, Audio, White board, Chat etc. can be used to exchange the valuable knowledge members posses. Champake/Sri Lanka Assitant Director (Information Documentation) Telecommunications Regulatory Commission 276

Re: Suggestion

2000-10-19 Thread Jon Crowcroft
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Telecom Regulato ry Commission of Sri Lanka typed: Why cannot IETF arrange Netmeeting sessions. So that all new techniques such as Video, Audio, White board, Chat etc. can be used to exchange the valuable knowledge members posses. we do - we not only have put

Usable Video from Meetings (was Re: Suggestion)

2000-10-19 Thread Daniel Senie
Jon Crowcroft wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Telecom Regulato ry Commission of Sri Lanka typed: Why cannot IETF arrange Netmeeting sessions. So that all new techniques such as Video, Audio, White board, Chat etc. can be used to exchange the valuable knowledge members posses.

Re: Suggestion

2000-10-19 Thread Keith Moore
Why cannot IETF arrange Netmeeting sessions. the last thing we need is more pro-Microsoft bias in this community.

Better yet, let's not. (was Re: Suggestion)

2000-10-19 Thread Mark Atwood
Telecom Regulatory Commission of Sri Lanka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why cannot IETF arrange Netmeeting sessions. So that all new techniques such as Video, Audio, White board, Chat etc. can be used to exchange the valuable knowledge members posses. I have a better idea. Put the meetings

Re: Suggestion

2000-10-19 Thread David Mitton
At 10/19/00 10:19 AM -0400, Keith Moore wrote: The last thing I need is more political statements like that. Stick to engineering here, please. the question is, what environment are we engineering for? one which is controlled by Microsoft or one which is platform-agnostic? when I was on

Re: Suggestion

2000-10-19 Thread Tim Salo
Keith Moore wrote: Why cannot IETF arrange Netmeeting sessions. the last thing we need is more pro-Microsoft bias in this community. I hope that this sentiment won't distract us from what I hope are more important objectives, one of which presumably is to effectively communicate with our

Re: Suggestion

2000-10-19 Thread Keith Moore
Well, last I looked I didn't think that the IETF was "engineering" video conferencing application products here. I would suspect that we are users of developed products, and that we should pick the products, perhaps several, that benefit the largest community that we wish to reach. I know

Re: Suggestion

2000-10-19 Thread Mark Atwood
Tim Salo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Awaiting a modest proposal to outlaw PowerPoint at IETF meetings...) What wrong with SliTeX anyway? Other than that the files are too small compaired to PowerPoint? (I swear, every time I see that blue fade to black background, I feel my eyelids start to

Re: Suggestion

2000-10-19 Thread Keith Moore
I don't know whether NetMeeting is the right answer. But, I am pretty sure the question ought to be "How can we more effectively communicate our message?", not "How can we avoid using Microsoft products?" agree entirely. but in my mind part of communicating effectively is avoiding the use

whither HTTP?

2000-10-19 Thread Jeff . Hodges
[This query received zip response on [EMAIL PROTECTED], so I'll try here] I recall that at one time there were various thoughts on the table about where to take HTTP next (e.g. "HTTP next generation") -- i.e. there were various BOFs held, I-Ds written, and so on. Larry Masinter noted simply

remote participation

2000-10-19 Thread James P. Salsman
Is there anything in the IESG governing rules that requires any physical presence at a particular location in order to accomplish any IESG tasks? I think the IETF took a wrong turn when the first PostScript RFC was published, because that is sort of hard on those blind persons who might want

Re: whither HTTP?

2000-10-19 Thread Simon St.Laurent
At 03:54 PM 10/19/00 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any nascent post-HTTP-1.1 efforts *presently* lurking about that anyone cares to mention? Does anyone have a convenient I know some folks are talking about blocks, though that could replace a lot more than HTTP: http://www.bxxp.org

Re: whither HTTP?

2000-10-19 Thread Marshall Rose
I know some folks are talking about blocks, though that could replace a lot more than HTTP: http://www.bxxp.org i don't think so. i think that http is as entrenched as ip tcp, and is nearly as irreplacable. the problem, i think, a general lack of clarity as to what http is for. i'd say

Re: whither HTTP?

2000-10-19 Thread Simon St.Laurent
At 06:16 PM 10/19/00 -0700, Marshall Rose wrote: I know some folks are talking about blocks, though that could replace a lot more than HTTP: http://www.bxxp.org i don't think so. i think that http is as entrenched as ip tcp, and is nearly as irreplacable. the problem, i think, a general

Re: mobile orthogonal to wide-area wireless

2000-10-19 Thread James P. Salsman
Mohsen, Thanks for your pointer: All of this and a great deal more is discussed in various old books, such as: - Internetwork Mobility - The CDPD Approach Taylor, Waung and Banan Prentice Hall 1996 ISBN: 0-13-209693-5 I can't find any store that seems to stock your book. What

Re: remote participation

2000-10-19 Thread ned . freed
Is there anything in the IESG governing rules that requires any physical presence at a particular location in order to accomplish any IESG tasks? I don't know of anything explicit in the rules, but as a practical matter it is essential that IESG members be present at most IETF meetings. The