Re: Correction: Re: The 20th anniversary of the Internet

2002-12-21 Thread Peter KIRSTEIN
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myou write:
bob is correct; I left ARPA in Oct 1972 to join MCI.

vint

You mean 1982.

Peter
At 07:49 PM 12/20/2002 +, Bob Braden wrote:

In my recent message about the creation of the Internet by
 the
conversion of the ARPAnet from NCP to TCP/IP, I incorrectl
y named Vint
Cerf as the Responsible Parent at ARPA.  Actually, the Res
ponsible
Parent at ARPA during conversion was Bob Kahn; Vint had le
ft ARPA for
MCI before that date.  There are enough slightly-incorrect
 facts
about the early history of the Internet floating around, w
ithout my
inadvertantly creating a new non-fact!

Bob Braden 

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Re: Correction: Re: The 20th anniversary of the Internet

2002-12-21 Thread vinton g. cerf
yes, duh.

v

At 12:16 PM 12/21/2002 +, Peter KIRSTEIN wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
myou write:
bob is correct; I left ARPA in Oct 1972 to join MCI.

vint

You mean 1982.

Vint Cerf
SVP Architecture  Technology
WorldCom
22001 Loudoun County Parkway, F2-4115
Ashburn, VA 20147
703 886 1690 (v806 1690)
703 886 0047 fax





RE: Last Call: Traffic Engineering Extensions to OSPF Version 2 to Proposed Standard

2002-12-21 Thread Pyda Srisuresh
... snip

  My recommendation against using this draft as the basis for 
  building further TE-extensions to inter-area and mixed networks
  was in the context of OSPF Autonomous System (AS). I also 
  mentioned the draft has scalability limitations in extending this 
  to inter-area and mixed networks -  also in the context of OSPF AS.
  
  Without going into the details of the Multi-area MPLS Traffic
  Enginering draft - The work cited in this draft as going on to 
  address multi-area TE is in the MPLS signalling context, not in 
  the OSPF.
 
 As I said in my previous e-mail quite a few scenarios described in
 draft-kompella-mpls-multiarea-te-03.txt are supported with the TE
 extensions that are subject to this Last Call. That is precisely
 while quite a few scenarios in the Multi-area MPLS Traffic Engineering 
 draft do not require any additions to what is already defined
 in the katz-yeung draft. 
 
 Yakov.

Yakov,

Yes, quite a few scenarios described in kompella-mpls-multiarea-te draft 
are supported with single-area TE extensions and do not require any 
additions. And, katz-yeung draft proposal will suffice for single-area 
TE extensions. 

katz-yeung draft does not cover dissemination of inter-area TE info
(which I was refering to as *inter-area OSPF-TE*). Neither does the 
draft claim to do so. Inter-area OSPF-TE is a scenario described in 
kompella-mpls-multiarea-te for faster convergence in LSP computation.

In this context - my recommendation to not use katz-yeung draft as the 
basis to extend to inter-area OSPF-TE was because of its scaling 
limitation.

Neither katz-yeung nor kompella-mpls-multiarea-te drafts address mixed
networks. katz-yeung draft has limitations with flooding disruption 
and topology isolation in a mixed network - both intra-area and 
inter-area. This was another reason why I recommended to not use 
katz-yeung draft as the basis to extend to inter-area OSPF-TE.

regards,
suresh