Re: FYI: BOF on Internationalized Email Addresses (IEA)

2003-10-30 Thread vinton g. cerf
Valdis, I think your example underscores the difference between localization of an interface to make use of local language/script and globalization that permits interworking among all parties, independent of their local language and script. the confusion between these two (familiar user

Re: FYI: BOF on Internationalized Email Addresses (IEA)

2003-10-30 Thread Dave Crocker
Valdis, VKve Mark actually *does* have a *very* valid point - on today's internet, if you 1. The goal is to go beyond today's internet. (But then, that is always the goal of a new standard.) 2. Although the primary focus of IETF work is to make standards for global interoperability, there are

Re: FYI: BOF on Internationalized Email Addresses (IEA)

2003-10-30 Thread Spencer Dawkins
Ummm, I'm not a Genius of E-mail, but I have sent a few. :-} The very-helpful scenario Valdis included a couple of notes back (if we punt on common ability to use Latin glyphs) has happened in my life, at the presentation level - I've been swapping e-mail back and forth with some very talented

Re: FYI: BOF on Internationalized Email Addresses (IEA)

2003-10-30 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 09:13:55 PST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Forget Mongolian. Think Chinese and Hindi, plus related languages that use their character sets. Between the two of them you have nearly 3 billion potential users, i.e. half the world's population. Admittedly not all of them are

Re: FYI: BOF on Internationalized Email Addresses (IEA)

2003-10-30 Thread Dave Aronson
On Thu October 30 2003 07:49, Spencer Dawkins wrote: leaking between two non-Latin enclaves is where the rubber meets the road, Specifically, two enclaves with *different* non-Latin character sets. (Probably what you meant, but) I've worked with too many smart people from

RE: [idn] FYI: BOF on Internationalized Email Addresses (IEA)

2003-10-30 Thread Michel Suignard
JSI seen John and Paul proposal but I have not seen Michel. Is there a draft that I can read JSup? I don't have a proposal. I am listed there as a co-editor of the IRI spec which has a peripheral impact on the IEA (such as extending the URI mailto scheme). Like many I am listening with

Re: FYI: BOF on Internationalized Email Addresses (IEA)

2003-10-30 Thread Tan Tin Wee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:32:46 +0800, James Seng said: to your opinion but please do so in other place, and not here. The group is suppose to work on Internationalization of Email address (identifiers), not debate whether we need it or not. Any group that addresses

Re: FYI: BOF on Internationalized Email Addresses (IEA)

2003-10-30 Thread Steve Dyer
At 01:24 30/10/2003 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:33:31 +0800, Tan Tin Wee said: snip If whatever Mongolia was doing was guaranteed to stay in Mongolia, it wouldn't be an issue. However, people inside the enclave *will* want to communicate with outsiders as well - and the