Re: Please review updated 1id-guidelines

2005-04-12 Thread Bob Braden
Bruce Lilly wrote: * * The problem is that 1id-guidelines appears many places; there is one * version (and, yes, I mean the content of the various documents * differs; these are not merely mirrors) on the ISI.EDU ftp site in the * in-notes directory (where the RFCs live), another on

Re: Last Call: 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures' to BCP

2005-04-12 Thread Colin Perkins
On 15 Mar 2005, at 21:25, The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures ' draft-freed-media-type-reg-02.txt as a BCP The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few

Re: Last Call: 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures' to BCP

2005-04-12 Thread ned . freed
On 15 Mar 2005, at 21:25, The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures ' draft-freed-media-type-reg-02.txt as a BCP The IESG plans to make a decision in the next

Re: IMS, IM-SSF

2005-04-12 Thread Jonathan Rosenberg
Questions on IMS should probably be directed towards 3gpp mailers, since that it is where it is being standardized. For SIP questions, you should direct your queries to sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu, which is where general implementation help and QA takes place. For issues related to sip

RE: Last Call: 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures' to BCP

2005-04-12 Thread Scott Hollenbeck
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:57 PM To: Colin Perkins Cc: iesg@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Last Call: 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures' to BCP

RE: Last Call: 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures' to BCP

2005-04-12 Thread ned . freed
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:57 PM To: Colin Perkins Cc: iesg@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Last Call: 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures' to

Re: Last Call: 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures' to BCP

2005-04-12 Thread Colin Perkins
On 12 Apr 2005, at 18:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:57 PM To: Colin Perkins Cc: iesg@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Last Call: 'Media Type

Re: Last Call: 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures' to BCP

2005-04-12 Thread Colin Perkins
On 12 Apr 2005, at 17:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... The rules for display of text media types assume that such types are, to some extent, readable without special purpose viewing software. This is certainly true for most types, but some existing types have restrictions on their use which are

Re: Last Call: 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures' to BCP

2005-04-12 Thread Bruce Lilly
Date: 2005-04-12 11:58 From: Colin Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have reviewed draft-freed-media-type-reg-03.txt, and have a number of comments intended to align the registration procedures with the current practice defined RFC 3555. These primarily arise due to the widespread use of

Re: Last Call: 'Requirements for IETF Draft Submission Toolset' to Informational RFC

2005-04-12 Thread Kireeti Kompella
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Scott W Brim wrote: On 4/7/2005 10:36, Brian E Carpenter allegedly wrote: Regardless of the interesting side-discussion about 'voting', what the toy shows after about a day is: prefer nroff: 8 prefer xml: 37 neither: 9 I wonder how many of those have

Re: Last Call: 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures' to BCP

2005-04-12 Thread Colin Perkins
On 12 Apr 2005, at 19:45, Bruce Lilly wrote: Date: 2005-04-12 11:58 From: Colin Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have reviewed draft-freed-media-type-reg-03.txt, and have a number of comments intended to align the registration procedures with the current practice defined RFC 3555. These primarily

Re: Last Call: 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures' to BCP

2005-04-12 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:03:03 +0100 From:Colin Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sure, but if the display agent is unaware of the restrictions, it won't | ever be able to receive the media data. The example I have in mind in |

Re: Last Call: 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures' to BCP

2005-04-12 Thread Colin Perkins
On 12 Apr 2005, at 20:51, Robert Elz wrote: Date:Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:03:03 +0100 From:Colin Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sure, but if the display agent is unaware of the restrictions, it won't | ever be able to receive the media data.

Re: Last Call: 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures' to BCP

2005-04-12 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:20:28 +0100 From:Colin Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | RFC 3555 allows media types to be defined for transport only via RTP. | The majority of these registrations are under the audio and video | top-level

Voting (again)

2005-04-12 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
Reading through the comments on voting I am struck by a difference in the approach people take to what the IETF is for. * One school of thought is that the reason for starting a working group is to arrive at a better engineering outcome than is possible independently. * Another school of thought

Re: Last Call: 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures' to BCP

2005-04-12 Thread Colin Perkins
On 12 Apr 2005, at 23:04, Robert Elz wrote: Date:Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:20:28 +0100 From:Colin Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | RFC 3555 allows media types to be defined for transport only via RTP. | The majority of these registrations are

Re: Last Call: 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures' to BCP

2005-04-12 Thread Stephen Casner
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005, Robert Elz wrote: Date:Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:20:28 +0100 From:Colin Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | RFC 3555 allows media types to be defined for transport only via RTP. | The majority of these registrations are

Re: Last Call: 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures' to BCP

2005-04-12 Thread ned . freed
Date:Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:20:28 +0100 From:Colin Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | RFC 3555 allows media types to be defined for transport only via RTP. | The majority of these registrations are under the audio and video | top-level

Re: Voting (again)

2005-04-12 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
Dear Phillip, There is a motivation you forgot. It is to take control of your particular part of the world in using the IANA to lodge your vision and/or your name. Like a micro TLD Manager. This goes beyond impressing your commercial/political relations in having signed an RFC in their area -

RE: Voting (again)

2005-04-12 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
Dear Phillip, There is a motivation you forgot. It is to take control of your particular part of the world in using the IANA to lodge your vision and/or your name. Like a micro TLD Manager. Folk greatly overestimate the effectiveness of IANA as a control point. Why does the IESG

WG Action: Conclusion of Voice Profile for Internet Mail (vpim)

2005-04-12 Thread The IESG
The Voice Profile for Internet Mail WG (vpim) in the Applications Area has concluded. The IESG contact persons are Ted Hardie and Scott Hollenbeck. The mailing list will remain active. ___ IETF-Announce mailing list IETF-Announce@ietf.org

Protocol Action: 'Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Recovery Functional Specification' to Proposed Standard

2005-04-12 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following documents: - 'Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Recovery Functional Specification ' draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-recovery-functional-04.txt as a Proposed Standard - 'Recovery (Protection and Restoration) Terminology for Generalized