Re: Last Call: draft-eggert-successful-bar-bof-05.txt (Considerationsfor Having a Successful Bar BOF Side Meeting) to Informational RFC

2011-08-17 Thread John C Klensin
I think this is a nice document, with many useful suggestions and insights. I think it would make a great ION if we still had IONs, a fine IESG statement, or perhaps an I-D that was reissued every 5 1/2 months to keep it active. The more I think about it, the less I like the idea of publishing

Re: [yam] Last Call: draft-ietf-yam-rfc4409bis-02.txt (Message Submission for Mail) to Full Standard

2011-08-17 Thread Mykyta Yevstifeyev
My 2 pence: I did finally manage to read the document and I support its publication. The only minor comment: The table in Table 1 has been corrected (reference for NO-SOLICITING) and extended (ATRN, DELIVERBY, CONPEM, and CONNEG). The registry should be updated to reflect the

RE: IETF Last Call comment on draft-ietf-pwe3-gal-in-pw

2011-08-17 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Hi all, After having sent out my comments I've noticed that the specific example to illustrate the need to combine GAL and flow label was inaccurate. A more relevant example would look like following (I do not include a diagram, but it can be easily provided if necessary) 1. A MS-PW: *

Re: [PWE3] IETF Last Call comment on draft-ietf-pwe3-gal-in-pw

2011-08-17 Thread Pablo Frank
I think it's okay because as the PW crosses the ECMP-enabled IP/MPLS domain in the middle segment, you're no longer in an MPLS-TP environment and so the GAL is not required to be BOS. During that middle segment, the PW flow label would be placed below the GAL and above the GACh. It gets removed

RE: [mpls] [PWE3] IETF Last Call comment on draft-ietf-pwe3-gal-in-pw

2011-08-17 Thread Shahram Davari
Pablo, This is not acceptable. Are you suggesting an LSR to pop a label that is not to of the stack? I can assure you 99.99% of HW out there can't do this. Thx SD From: mpls-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Pablo Frank Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:18 PM To:

Re: [mpls] [PWE3] IETF Last Call comment on draft-ietf-pwe3-gal-in-pw

2011-08-17 Thread Pablo Frank
My mistake. Flow-labels are used end-to-end in a multi-segment pseudowire. I suppose the flow label can easily be ignored when it crosses the MPLS-TP segments but that does create the conflict that Sasha is pointing out. Pablo On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Shahram Davari dav...@broadcom.com

RE: [PWE3] IETF Last Call comment on draft-ietf-pwe3-gal-in-pw

2011-08-17 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Pablo, Sorry, but I think you're wrong. Only T-PE can insert the flow label (because only T=PE can be flow-aware). S-PE simply performs swap on PW label. Regards, Sasha From: Pablo Frank [pablois...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:17 AM To:

Re: Last Call: draft-eggert-successful-bar-bof-05.txt (Considerationsfor Having a Successful Bar BOF Side Meeting) to Informational RFC

2011-08-17 Thread SM
At 01:38 17-08-2011, John C Klensin wrote: The problem is that RFCs are forever. RFCs subjected to IETF Last Call and published in the IETF Stream --especially ones that advise on IETF processes-- are also official, at least in the sense of representing some level of community consensus and