Re: Conclusion of the last call on draft-housley-two-maturity-levels

2011-09-11 Thread Jari Arkko
Thomas, I am in full agreement that document revision and bug fixing is the more important activity for IETF. Not just in my opinion, but I think we can also see it from the numbers of bis documents versus numbers of advancing documents. But I think some amount of bug fixing and revision is

Re: Conclusion of the last call on draft-housley-two-maturity-levels

2011-09-11 Thread Russ Housley
I think you will see that this question was discussed at least once. We asked about moving to a one-level maturity model instead. The conclusion was that it was possible to go from a two-level to a one-level in the future if that is appropriate. However, if we go straight to a one-level now,

Re: Conclusion of the last call on draft-housley-two-maturity-levels

2011-09-11 Thread John C Klensin
--On Sunday, September 11, 2011 11:57 -0400 Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com wrote: I think you will see that this question was discussed at least once. We asked about moving to a one-level maturity model instead. The conclusion was that it was possible to go from a two-level to a

TSVDIR review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-federated-dns-srv-namespace

2011-09-11 Thread Joe Touch
Hi, all, I've reviewed this document as part of the transport area directorate's ongoing effort to review key IETF documents. These comments were written primarily for the transport area directors, but are copied to the document's authors for their information and to allow them to address any

Re: TSVDIR review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-federated-dns-srv-namespace

2011-09-11 Thread Keith Moore
I've always thought that insistence on the use of RFC 2782 labels with SRV records unreasonably overconstrained the use of SRV records; and thus, limited their applicability. Part of the problem, I suspect, is that at the time that 2782 was being drafted there may have been some belief that

Re: TSVDIR review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-federated-dns-srv-namespace

2011-09-11 Thread Joe Touch
Hi Keith, On 9/11/2011 1:22 PM, Keith Moore wrote: I've always thought that insistence on the use of RFC 2782 labels with SRV records unreasonably overconstrained the use of SRV records; and thus, limited their applicability. Part of the problem, I suspect, is that at the time that 2782 was

Re: TSVDIR review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-federated-dns-srv-namespace

2011-09-11 Thread Keith Moore
On Sep 11, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Joe Touch wrote: We've been discussing this in the Transport area lately. DNS SRVs are defined in RFC 2782 as I have described. Additional info is passed in TXT records for current DNS SRVs. I.e. what I have proposed is what is both current spec and current

Re: Conclusion of the last call on draft-housley-two-maturity-levels

2011-09-11 Thread Hector
John C Klensin wrote: --On Sunday, September 11, 2011 11:57 -0400 Russ Housley However, if we go straight to a one-level now, and then learn that a two-level would have been better, we would be stuck. But, if we go from a three-level to a two-level now, without compelling evidence that it

Re: TSVDIR review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-federated-dns-srv-namespace

2011-09-11 Thread Joe Touch
On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Keith Moore wrote: On Sep 11, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Joe Touch wrote: We've been discussing this in the Transport area lately. DNS SRVs are defined in RFC 2782 as I have described. Additional info is passed in TXT records for current DNS SRVs. I.e. what I

Re: Conclusion of the last call on draft-housley-two-maturity-levels

2011-09-11 Thread John C Klensin
--On Sunday, September 11, 2011 18:01 -0400 Hector sant9...@gmail.com wrote: John C Klensin wrote: --On Sunday, September 11, 2011 11:57 -0400 Russ Housley However, if we go straight to a one-level now, and then learn that a two-level would have been better, we would be stuck. ... But I

Re: Conclusion of the last call on draft-housley-two-maturity-levels

2011-09-11 Thread Hector
John C Klensin wrote: --On Sunday, September 11, 2011 18:01 -0400 Hector sant9...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, I was wondering which BIS documents with no RFC publication dates would be candidates. 93 total. Based on the first few, there are a bunch of errors in your list. Yes, just imported