The IAOC has put forward two reasons for having an IETF meeting in South
America:
Encouraging growing participation will help strengthen the Internet,
further encourage participation from those areas that will see the
most growth in the coming years, and will help advance the IETF in
political
This is the main question with one pragmatic solution proposal in brief,
and well justified!
Juliao
Em 26/05/2013 13:42, Dave Crocker escreveu:
If we are serious about wanting more participation from
under-represented regions, then let's attack that issue seriously and
substantively, rather
Indeed, there has already been some coordination between the groups, going
back about a year:
http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/84/slides/slides-84-ecrit-0.pdf
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-aboba-rtcweb-ecrit-00.txt
So my read of the situation is much less dire than James's. As I
understand it, the
At 09:42 26-05-2013, Dave Crocker wrote:
I like visiting South America. But IETF meetings do not have
tourism as a goal. So yes, I'm sure those who go will enjoy the
city; but again, that's not stated purpose of choosing venues.
Over a year ago the IAOC [was] pleased to announce the Return
The elephant in the room is that there hasn't been any discussion about
what has been done
to get more participation from under-represented regions but nobody has
mentioned that.
I believe there's the need for a lot more awareness creation about the IETF
in the under-represented regions. That
--On Sunday, May 26, 2013 15:46 -0400 Ray Pelletier
rpellet...@isoc.org wrote:
The venues are in Buenos Aires. They meet our requirements
for the meeting space, networking, nearby restaurants and
bars, hotel room rates in the mid $200 dollar range, nearby
alternate hotels at a broad range
Hi Edwin,
At 13:59 26-05-2013, Edwin A. Opare wrote:
The awareness creation should start at the grassroots level : The
Universities!. Train the soon-to-graduate Computer
Scientist/Engineer on the values and essence of the IETF and it'll
forever be with them even after graduation.
To elicit
Hi -
Watching this discussion scroll by on my screen, I'm amazed
how similar it is to discussions of evangelism in congregations.
Two things this religious institution might learn from other
religious institutions:
(1) need-based evangelism. Outreach efforts are more
effective if they
I support to add the new region, hoping in future Africa gets its
chance. IMO, I thought about it from another point of view. After a
long time of having IETF meetings mostly in one region (as history of
North America region gaining most meetings), the result of that was
that IETF participants are
Hi SM,
There are some from Africa trying to find the way in, but they may not
mention it, however, training is not important much to make people
participate but the type of training and its period inside
organisation not outside. For example, I notice that there was one
African participant (not
SM, FYI:
Inscriptions at IETF 86 [1]:
ARIN RIPE APNICAFRINIC LACNIC
671 258 23731 26
54.87% 21.10% 19.38% 2.53%2.13%
Inscriptions since IETF 72 to IETF 85. For Year, RIR and Country:
http://rfc.pegasus.com.br/ietf.php
I think the
I support the ietf-meeting in new regions, and reply as below,
On 5/26/13, Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote:
The IAOC has put forward two reasons for having an IETF meeting in South
America:
Encouraging growing participation will help strengthen the Internet,
further encourage
Just to make the topic a little more interesting...
Google Unable To Keep Paying App Developers In Argentina
http://developers.slashdot.org/story/13/05/25/132232/google-unable-to-keep-paying-app-developers-in-argentina
Google has sent letters to app developers registered in Argentina
The move appears to be related to new, restrictive
regulations the Argentine government has imposed on currency exchanges.'
According to the Telegraph, 'The new regulations required anyone wanting
to change Argentine pesos into another currency to submit an online
request for permission
According to the news published for a long time in Brazilian newspapers
and magazines, Buenos Aires (a wonderful place!) would not be
recommended. But who should tell us about the true cenary would be our
Argentine friends.
Juliao
Em 27/05/2013 01:15, John Levine escreveu:
These kinds of
On 5/26/13 4:01 PM, SM wrote:
Hi Edwin,
At 13:59 26-05-2013, Edwin A. Opare wrote:
The awareness creation should start at the grassroots level : The
Universities!. Train the soon-to-graduate Computer
Scientist/Engineer on the values and essence of the IETF and it'll
forever be with them even
I think this is a summary of the issues people have mentioned that
discourage participation from LDCs, in rough order of importance.
* People aren't aware the IETF exists, or what it does, or that it has
an open participation model
* People don't read and write English well enough to be
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