Re: Community Input Sought on SOWs for RFC Production Center and RFC Publisher

2013-08-18 Thread Bert Wijnen (IETF)
The point w.r.t. MIB module checking was that during editing phase, even a small typo in a double quote or some such would render the MIB module invalid/non-compilable (i.e. invalid SYNTAX). So if RPC does not touch the text at all, then there is no need for them to check. But if they DO touch

Academic and open source rate (was: Charging remote participants)

2013-08-18 Thread SM
Hi Hadriel, At 12:31 16-08-2013, Hadriel Kaplan wrote: I may be misunderstanding you, but I'm proposing we charge large corporations with large travel budgets slightly *more* than others.[1] I'm not suggesting an overhaul of the system. I'm not proposing they get more attention, or more

Re: Academic and open source rate (was: Charging remote participants)

2013-08-18 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 2:51 PM, SM s...@resistor.net wrote: Hi Hadriel, At 12:31 16-08-2013, Hadriel Kaplan wrote: I may be misunderstanding you, but I'm proposing we charge large corporations with large travel budgets slightly *more* than others.[1] I'm not suggesting an overhaul of the

Re: Academic and open source rate (was: Charging remote participants)

2013-08-18 Thread Hadriel Kaplan
On Aug 18, 2013, at 5:21 AM, SM s...@resistor.net wrote: 1. If the IETF is serious about running code (see RFC 6982) it would try to encourage open source developers to participate more effectively in the IETF. Define open source developers. Technically quite a lot of developers at my

Re: Academic and open source rate (was: Charging remote participants)

2013-08-18 Thread John C Klensin
--On Sunday, 18 August, 2013 08:33 -0400 Hadriel Kaplan hadriel.kap...@oracle.com wrote: ... And it does cost the IETF lots of money to host the physical meetings, and that cost is directly proportional to the number of physical attendees. More attendees = more cost. I had promised myself

Re: Academic and open source rate (was: Charging remote participants)

2013-08-18 Thread Hadriel Kaplan
I've been told, though obviously I don't know, that the costs are proportional. I assume it's not literally a if we get one additional person, it costs an additional $500. But I assume SM wasn't proposing to get just one or a few more open source developer attendees. If we're talking about

Re: Academic and open source rate (was: Charging remote participants)

2013-08-18 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Hadriel Kaplan hadriel.kap...@oracle.comwrote: On Aug 18, 2013, at 5:21 AM, SM s...@resistor.net wrote: 1. If the IETF is serious about running code (see RFC 6982) it would try to encourage open source developers to participate more effectively in the IETF.

Re: Anyone having trouble submitting I-Ds?

2013-08-18 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Benjamin Kaduk ka...@mit.edu wrote: On Fri, 16 Aug 2013, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: My web submission told me Your submission is pending email authentication. An email has been sent you with instructions. more than an hour ago, but I haven't seen such a mail. I

Re: Academic and open source rate (was: Charging remote participants)

2013-08-18 Thread John Levine
In article 01672754-1c4f-465b-b737-7e82dc5b3...@oracle.com you write: I've been told, though obviously I don't know, that the costs are proportional. I assume it's not literally a if we get one additional person, it costs an additional $500. But I assume SM wasn't proposing to get just one or

Re: Anyone having trouble submitting I-Ds?

2013-08-18 Thread John Levine
The anti-hijacking feature causes the confirmation email to only go to the authors listed on the previous version of the document, so mail was not sent to me and things are working as expected. This behavior is not documented to the user when they submit the document and is therefore a bug.

Re: Academic and open source rate (was: Charging remote participants)

2013-08-18 Thread SM
Hi Hadriel, At 05:33 18-08-2013, Hadriel Kaplan wrote: Define open source developers. Technically quite a lot of developers at my employer develop open source, as do many at many of the corporations which send people to the IETF. Heck, even I personally submit code to Wireshark now and then.