query on SNMP set PDU and row creation mechanism

2000-05-04 Thread Shivendra Kumar
Hi , This is Shivendra and I am working on SNMP interfaces for a optical network NE. We are providing row creation mechanism on SNMP tables using SMI v2 directives( using RowStatus). In the Set Pdu , we want to allow the requests for multiple row creations over same/different tables. We

Internet Financial Devices are mostly proprietary

2000-05-04 Thread Musandu
Most of the time when you subscribe to a financial service on the internet, e.g a digital wallet or peripheral device for charging debit cards, your money becomes proprietary i.e you spend it only as allowed by the service provider or charging of financial debit devices can only be under taken

VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread Scot Mc Pherson
The is an e-mail virus going around. The subject of the e-mail is ILOVEYOU...I suggest you delete it the moment you receive it. -Scot Mc Pherson, N2UPA -Sr. Network Analyst -ClearAccess Communications -Ph: 941.744.5757 ext. 210 -Fax: 941.744.0629 -mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread Donald E. Eastlake 3rd
The whole world does not run software which is a good culture medium for email viruses. I mostly use nice old UNIX software and it would take a number of extra steps on my part for some embdedded virus to get a chance to run. If your software automatically executes stuff in attachments, you

THe Value Of Following Standards... (was Re: VIRUS WARNING)

2000-05-04 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 04 May 2000 09:27:19 EDT, Scot Mc Pherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The is an e-mail virus going around. The subject of the e-mail is ILOVEYOU...I suggest you delete it the moment you receive it. Somebody didn't read RFC2046, section 2, where it talks about text/plain being *TEXT*, and

Re: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread A James Lewis
This is actually genuine for once... it's a vbscript.. On Thu, 4 May 2000, Scot Mc Pherson wrote: The is an e-mail virus going around. The subject of the e-mail is ILOVEYOU...I suggest you delete it the moment you receive it. -Scot Mc Pherson, N2UPA -Sr. Network Analyst -ClearAccess

RE: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread Scot Mc Pherson
Actually what happened, was I received this virus from a trusted friend who just so happens would send an e-mail to me with that sort of "literary" content to me as a joke. So as it happens it was a perfect trojan because it slipped under my defenses by being something I would normally expect. My

Re: THe Value Of Following Standards... (was Re: VIRUS WARNING)

2000-05-04 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: THe Value Of Following Standards... (was Re: VIRUS WARNING) Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 10:46:33 -0400 On Thu, 04 May 2000 09:27:19 EDT, Scot Mc Pherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The is an e-mail virus going around. The subject of the e-mail is ILOVEYOU...I

Re: THe Value Of Following Standards... (was Re: VIRUS WARNING)

2000-05-04 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 10:46:33AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 04 May 2000 09:27:19 EDT, Scot Mc Pherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The is an e-mail virus going around. The subject of the e-mail is ILOVEYOU...I suggest you delete it the moment you receive it. Somebody didn't read

RE: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread Lillian Komlossy
Donald, The whole world will not switch over to Unix - the average user will always be more confortable with Windows unless Unix will at one point offer the same seamless user-friendliness. So it will always be a problem, one which cannot be solved by telling others not to use what they've

Re: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread Keith Moore
Actually what happened, was I received this virus from a trusted friend but of course you didn't receive the virus from a trusted friend; you received it from an impostor. now you know not to trust names that appear in a message header. Keith

RE: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread Scot Mc Pherson
In addition to what has been posted by me earlier and what has been reported on Symantec's site, I have learned the following. When the virus is contracted (DONOT shut down the computer or reboot) The worm is designed to propagate fully during system startup. It should be noted that you should

RE: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread Vernon Schryver
From: Lillian Komlossy [EMAIL PROTECTED] The whole world will not switch over to Unix - the average user will always be more confortable with Windows unless Unix will at one point offer the same seamless user-friendliness. So it will always be a problem, one which cannot be solved by

RE: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread Lipford, Mark
This discussion is a bad as the virus. Can we take it off this list and have it individually please? Mark A. Lipford -Original Message- From: Lillian Komlossy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 11:02 AM

RE: THe Value Of Following Standards... (was Re: VIRUS WARNING)

2000-05-04 Thread Lillian Komlossy
I don't know about deliberate inclusion of the security hole - it looks more to me like "careless". Feels like it just "was not thought to be a danger of any kind to security"... (Does the word TITANIC mean anything to you?) Lillian Komlossy Site Manager

Re: THe Value Of Following Standards... (was Re: VIRUS WARNING)

2000-05-04 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 04 May 2000 10:41:34 EDT, "Michael H. Warfield" said: Your mailer may be able to display it as text (mine, Mutt, certainly can) but it is definitely propagating as type application/octet-stream, not text/plain. Wish we could lay that one on them, but we can't. Mea Culpa - seems

value of standards

2000-05-04 Thread Peter Nõu
At 18:02 2000-05-04 Lillian Komlossy wrote: The whole world will not switch over to Unix - the average user will always be more confortable with Windows The whole world might not be comfortable with Windows but many, many of my collegues around the world work at companies where they have

Re: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 10:48:12 -0400 From: "Donald E. Eastlake 3rd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] The whole world does not run software which is a good culture medium for email viruses. I mostly use nice old UNIX software and it would take a number of extra steps on my part for some

RE: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread J. Noel Chiappa
From: "Scot Mc Pherson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually what happened, was I received this virus from a trusted friend ... I am just glad that I didn't have any e-mail lists in my "address book" That's actually an interesting bit of "social engineering" on the part of the virus

RE: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread A James Lewis
The whole world will use what they are presented with the difference between Win3.1 and Win95 is far greater than the difference between Win95 and GNOME or KDE... so actually it's only software availability thats holding back IS departments the world over! If MS gets split, we could have

RE: THe Value Of Following Standards... (was Re: VIRUS WARNING)

2000-05-04 Thread Parkinson, Jonathan
This is what happens when a software gient makes up the rules as they go along, all in the name of making the umm user err happy, Now i will spend £30.00 on anti-virus software :-) -Original Message- From: Magnus Danielson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 4:24 PM

Re: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread Keith Moore
Clearly, you need report to re-education camps to learn why it's important to let the government let companies have to freedom to innovate wonderful things like vbscript. :-) not to mention gratuitous incompatibilites to Kerberos. Keith

RE: Security insanity

2000-05-04 Thread Lillian Komlossy
I agree with you - anything that is happening automatically and without the chance for the user to say "yes" or "no thank you" is calling for this kind of attacks. It should be part of ActiveX or any other technology. Nothing should autoexecute. Unfortunately a lot of e-commerce and software

RE: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread Jim Stephenson-Dunn
Office for Unix, Now there's a terrifying thought (please don't contaminate the purity of my unix system with that filthy windows software) Jim Jim Dunn Senior Network Engineer San Francisco NOC -Original Message- From: A James Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday,

Re: THe Value Of Following Standards... (was Re: VIRUS WARNING)

2000-05-04 Thread Austin Schutz
the builders of the titanic didn't know that certain kinds of steel become brittle at cold temperatures. otoh, the developers of this user agent knew, or should have known, the risks of executing code of unknown origin. they have been understood for a long time. they were

Re: value of standards

2000-05-04 Thread John Stracke
Keith Moore wrote: Perhaps unfortunately, RFC 2046 doesn't come right out and say "DON'T EXECUTE CONTENT IN EMAIL MESSAGES". Then again, it doesn't say DON'T CUT YOUR CUSTOMER'S ARM OFF either. Don't be silly; a vendor would never cut a customer's arm off. How would they pull out their

Re: THe Value Of Following Standards... (was Re: VIRUS WARNING)

2000-05-04 Thread Keith Moore
So if the users would save the virus to disk and then run it, what's the savings? the virus doesn't propagate as quickly, nor to as many people, before it is detected and countermeasures are put in place. yes, this does make a significant difference. You could have senders

RE: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread Lillian Komlossy
Let's not make it political. We've all been attacked, it is pointless to bring in the Unix vs Windows debate. Office, Windows, Unix, Linux, Mac are all great as long as somebody likes to work with them. I personally like Microsoft products, but I respect those who don't - and expect the same

Re: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread Jon Crowcroft
"noone ever got fired for buying ibm" this was ironic coz ibm was expensive, but worked someone should get fired for buying someone elses prodiucts irony no class action just reality checkpoint time... for a systemic view, some stuff is engineered better than other stuff - see mark

Re: value of standards

2000-05-04 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Moore writes: note that it takes a nontrivial user interface to communicate this to a recipient of email: e.g. NOTE: this message was signed by someone purporting to be Keith Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]. The signature is validated by a certificate from

Re: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 04 May 2000 20:39:43 EDT, Keith Moore said: but sooner or later folks are going to be held liable for poor engineering or poor implementation of networking software, just like folks today can be held liable for poor engineering or implementation of bridges or buildings. Not if the

Re: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 04 May 2000 11:11:50 EDT, Scot Mc Pherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In fact to back up your statement, there are exactly 3 virii that infect UNIX based systems. Hmm.. the Morris worm of 1988. What are the other 2? Hmm.. if you count the 2 self-reproducing sample programs that came

Re: VIRUS WARNING

2000-05-04 Thread George Michaelson
Hmm.. the Morris worm of 1988. What are the other 2? Piers Dick Lauder and Bob Kummerfeld implemented Mail/sendfile *@* (yes, wildcards both sides of the user@host name form) in ACSnet prior to this. It was designed to be used amongst other things, to do s/w updates to all ACSnet