At 12:46 PM 1/29/2004, Leslie Daigle wrote:
I'd like to come back to this point, and try a slightly different direction:
Fred Baker wrote:
"The purpose of the IETF is to create high quality, relevant, and timely
standards for the Internet."
I think I would state it in these words:
"The Internet
Hitting some very high points
- Talking is important. It's what the IETF does.
- Standards are one, but not the only, output of that talking.
- Publishing good ideas is important. It's what the RFC Editor does.
- Mission statements are dangerous. Discussing them makes you have to admit
tha
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Falk writes:
>This is insane. Can the Secretariat please give unambiguous advice
>(preferably backed up by a letter from the Korean embassy) to
>attendees?
>
As I posted to the IETF list a couple of days ago, the company that
AT&T uses for advice on such
One more thing: They won't take a check. Cash and money order are the
only things you can send 'em. -- nathaniel
On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 11:48 AM, Ken Hornstein wrote:
How about this for a twist: if you ask for an invitation (required
for a
visa), you are told you really, really
On 1/28/2004 8:15 PM, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
> Conclusions, all mine:
>
> - Documenting current procedures is good. - We won't expire tombstones.
> They're not a big enough problem yet. - We'll think about naming
> tombstones something else than the exact draft name (for instance
> draft
An attempt to attenuate the visa discussion.
The Korean Consulate in Washington DC is preparing an official
letter intended to clearly state that U.S. citizens do not need
a visa to attend the IETF meeting in Seoul.
I will forward a graphic of the letter to the IETF Directorate,
who has agreed to
On Thursday, January 29, 2004, at 01:59 PM, Kevin C. Almeroth wrote:
U.S. citizens in possession of a valid U.S.-passport do not need a
visa if traveling
to Austria as a tourist for a period not to exceed 90 days (visa
waiver program).
We're not traveling as tourists, strictly speaking.
The same
hi,
> AFAIK, no.
> Do you know of any effort to make stable documentation for the WIKI syntax
> & functionality, or is it just "use the Source, Luke"?
FYI,
there are some efforts,
http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?WikiMarkupStandard
and Japanese Wiki syntax standardization,
http://lab.lolipop
My suggestion: do what you did for Vienna. Vienna has the same rules:
U.S. citizens in possession of a valid U.S.-passport do not need a visa if traveling
to Austria as a tourist for a period not to exceed 90 days (visa waiver program).
-Kevin
Noel,
(1) Sorry to have misconstrued your comments.
(2) Yes, I was trying to refer to situations in which each of
the hosts on a multihomed LAN has exactly one address, largely
because of bad experiences with client machines running
widely-used junk software trying to handle multiple addresses
--On Thursday, 29 January, 2004 12:47 -0500 John Stracke
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Aaron Falk wrote:
This is insane. Can the Secretariat please give unambiguous
advice (preferably backed up by a letter from the Korean
embassy) to attendees?
It sounds like you might be safest contacting th
I am an Indian national (which means I need a visa). I know for a fact
that I need a produce an invitation letter to get a visa.
Vijay
Ken Hornstein wrote:
How about this for a twist: if you ask for an invitation (required for a
visa), you are told you really, really don't need it. When I requ
>I am an Indian national (which means I need a visa). I know for a fact
>that I need a produce an invitation letter to get a visa.
Please note that I did qualify my note by saying "US citizens". Of
course entry requirements differ between countries. My point was that
US citizens do not need an
On Jan 29, 2004, at 9:47 AM, John Stracke wrote:
It sounds like you might be safest contacting the Korean embassy
yourself and asking for a visa. If they say you don't need one,
you're on firmer ground than if the IETF says you don't need one.
I believe the risk is in how one characterizes what
>> This is insane. Can the Secretariat please give unambiguous advice
>> (preferably backed up by a letter from the Korean embassy) to attendees?
>
>It sounds like you might be safest contacting the Korean embassy
>yourself and asking for a visa. If they say you don't need one, you're
>on fi
Aaron Falk wrote:
This is insane. Can the Secretariat please give unambiguous advice
(preferably backed up by a letter from the Korean embassy) to attendees?
It sounds like you might be safest contacting the Korean embassy
yourself and asking for a visa. If they say you don't need one, you'r
I'd like to come back to this point, and try a slightly different
direction:
Fred Baker wrote:
"The purpose of the IETF is to create high quality, relevant, and
timely standards for the Internet."
I think I would state it in these words:
"The Internet Engineering Task Force provides a foru
This is insane. Can the Secretariat please give unambiguous advice
(preferably backed up by a letter from the Korean embassy) to
attendees?
--aaron
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Eric Burger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: January 29, 2004 8:16:54 AM PST
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: vis
>How about this for a twist: if you ask for an invitation (required for a
>visa), you are told you really, really don't need it. When I requested a
>visa from TTA, this is the response I got. Has anyone succeeded in getting
>a letter?
When I downloaded the visa application form (and checked the
>A U.S. citizen does NOT need a visa to visit Korea for a meeting
>by a non-profit group such as the Internet Engineering Task Force.
>I just confirmed this with the head of the visa section in the
>Korean Consulate in Washington DC.
Gene,
Could you please post the contact information for the hea
> From: John C Klensin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Of course, multiple A records works, is out there, and have worked for
> years. But they worked better before we introduced routers (i.e., when
> the hosts with multiple A records really had interfaces on different
> networks). Today
How about this for a twist: if you ask for an invitation (required for a visa), you
are told you really, really don't need it. When I requested a visa from TTA, this is
the response I got. Has anyone succeeded in getting a letter?
-Original Message-
From: KeeMoon Roh [mailto:[EMAIL
At 07:43 AM 1/29/2004, Randall R. Stewart (home) wrote:
Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
On 28-jan-04, at 23:47, Randall R. Stewart (home) wrote:
- increased overhead compared to TCP
Ok lets see. SCTP takes on average 4 more bytes per data packet then
TCP. However, if the TCP implementation enables t
--On Thursday, 29 January, 2004 14:34 +0900 Dave Crocker
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
JCK> Yes. And it may speak to the IETF's sense of priorities
that JCK> the efforts to which you refer are predominantly
going into the JCK> much more complex and long-term problem,
rather than the one JCK>
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 05:25:15PM -0800, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
>
>
> --On 28. januar 2004 12:49 +1200 Franck Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I was just wondering if there has been any work to standardise the Wiki
> >syntax/system into an RFC?
>
> AFAIK, no.
> Do you know of any
Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
On 28-jan-04, at 23:47, Randall R. Stewart (home) wrote:
- increased overhead compared to TCP
Ok lets see. SCTP takes on average 4 more bytes per data packet then
TCP. However, if the TCP implementation enables timestamps then
that is not true and TCP takes more over
On 28-jan-04, at 23:47, Randall R. Stewart (home) wrote:
- increased overhead compared to TCP
Ok lets see. SCTP takes on average 4 more bytes per data packet then
TCP. However, if the TCP implementation enables timestamps then
that is not true and TCP takes more overhead by about 4 bytes...
Hm...
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