Re: IETF 62

2004-09-22 Thread Michael D Frisch
“watch list” can work, although in this case they were a little late. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040922/D858EV280.html Regards, MDF Quoting Scott Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 09:34:17 +0200, Lars Eggert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: based on your signature, you're presumably

Scenario C prerequisites (Re: Upcoming: further thoughts on where from here)

2004-09-22 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
Scott, some meta-thoughts. --On 21. september 2004 20:33 -0400 scott bradner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Scenario C document says that there are 3 prerequisites required before the option of a corporation can be considered viable at all 1/ IETF consensus on the plan 2/ ISOC

Tax excemption (Re: Scenario O (was: Re: Upcoming: further thoughts on where from here))

2004-09-22 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
--On 21. september 2004 23:50 -0400 John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (time to change the subject line enough to do some differentiation) good principle.. as I said on another thread, I think we should take competent tax advisor's advise on whether or not we can achieve this, and how

Re: Scenario C prerequisites

2004-09-22 Thread scott bradner
Harald opines: re: 1/ Considering the level of participation in this discussion on the IETF list I do not see how one could assert that there was IETF consensus without an explicit discussion at an IETF plenary - I do not think that just issuing a last call (as envisioned by the Scenario

Re: Scenario O Re: Upcoming: further thoughts on where from here

2004-09-22 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Leslie and Harald somewhat challenged me in private to review Scenario O more deeply, to indicate the bits of it that may need more work - since otherwise we might miss showstoppers. So I have sone so, below, but with the proviso that this is the scenario I prefer - so my comments should be taken

FYI - US Government requesting information on E-Mail Authentication

2004-09-22 Thread Richard Shockey
For Release: September 15, 2004 FTC, NIST to Host E-mail Authentication Summit Adoption of Technology Could Help Thwart Spam The Federal Trade Commission and National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) will co-host a two-day summit November 9-10 to explore the development and deployment

Re: Scenario C prerequisites (Re: Upcoming: further thoughts on where from here)

2004-09-22 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 22 September, 2004 05:59 +0200 Harald Tveit Alvestrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... re: 3/ Of course, there can be no assurance that a corporation will be tax exempt unless 1/ it already is, or 2/ the IRS rules that it is. Scenario O covers the 1st case since the ISOC is

Re: Scenario C prerequisites (Re: Upcoming: further thoughts on where from here)

2004-09-22 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 22 September, 2004 05:59 +0200 Harald Tveit Alvestrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... re: 3/ Of course, there can be no assurance that a corporation will be tax exempt unless 1/ it already is, or 2/ the IRS rules that it is. Scenario O covers the 1st case since the ISOC is

Re: Scenario C prerequisites (Re: Upcoming: further thoughts on where from here)

2004-09-22 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Wednesday, September 22, 2004 05:59:02 +0200 Harald Tveit Alvestrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being a bit facetious here, the only way to be sure the sun will rise in the morning is to wait for it to show up. If we get an organizational charter that a tax attorney is willing to assure us is

Re: Scenario C prerequisites (Re: Upcoming: further thoughts on where from here)

2004-09-22 Thread Karl Auerbach
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: I think this and a number of other points made here gloss over a key point of which some of the participants may not be aware. Under US law, there is a significant difference between not-for-profit and charitable nonprofit It might be useful to

Re: Academics locked out by tight visa controls

2004-09-22 Thread Doo Timbir
Dear Hadmut, This is a very good piece of information. Sincerely, Doo Timbir. --- Hadmut Danisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See: http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/9710963.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp1c regards Hadmut

Re: Scenario O Re: Upcoming: further thoughts on where from here

2004-09-22 Thread Sam Hartman
I'd like to express general support for scenario O. I probably will not have time to read the document in sufficient detail to agree with every point, but this looks like a good direction. --Sam ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Scenario C prerequisites (Re: Upcoming: further thoughts on where from here)

2004-09-22 Thread Gene Gaines
Karl, 2 cents. Assuming IETF is going to set up a corporation and it is to be created in the United States, it appears to me there are strong reasons for incorporating as a non-profit, and further to obtain tax-exempt status as a 501(c)(3) organization. It appears to me that IETF qualifies for

Re: Scenario C prerequisites (Re: Upcoming: further thoughts on where from here)

2004-09-22 Thread Karl Auerbach
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004, Gene Gaines wrote: ISOC is non-profit, 501(c)(3) tax-exempt, incorporated in the District of Columbia. I suggest it would be a serious mistake for the IETF not to obtain the same status. There are many kinds of 501(c) exemptions. They all come with different kinds of chains

Re: Scenario C prerequisites (Re: Upcoming: further thoughts on where from here)

2004-09-22 Thread Gene Gaines
Karl, Good thoughts. I agree with all. I suppose the reason for my long writing was to say that 501(3)(?) status should not be feared, the process is predictable, and I think you will find the IRS actually will assist in the process. In any event, requires a good non-profit / tax lawyer to

NomCom 2004/05: Second Call for Volunteers

2004-09-22 Thread Danny McPherson
This is a call for volunteers to participate in the 2004/05 IETF Nominations Committee, the committee that will select this year's nominees for the IAB and IESG. Details about the Nominations Committee process can be found in RFC 3777. The NomCom is the IETF's way of choosing its leadership.

WG Action: Conclusion of MTA Authorization Records in DNS (marid)

2004-09-22 Thread The IESG
The MTA Authorization Records in DNS (MARID) working group in the Applications Area has concluded. The IESG contact persons are Ted Hardie and Scott Hollenbeck. The mailing list will remain active. After an assessment of the current state of the MARID working group, its charter, and its