Re: Version -06 of the IASA BCP - is this a workable version?

2005-02-03 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
--On 3. februar 2005 00:06 +0100 JFC (Jefsey) Morfin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yet the request that the following text is added in Part 4 has been objected by you and discussed with others, on the list and off list. The carefull process of deliberation is not completed, and has not lead to a

IAOC Responsibilities

2005-02-03 Thread Robert Kahn
I continue to remain concerned that the BCP is not flexible enough to allow the IAOC to assume administrative responsibilities for acting as a trustee for IETF-owned IP. There needs to be a specific task added to the IAOC responsibilities for this purpose. Specifically, the following words

Re: 1918bis

2005-02-03 Thread Spencer Dawkins
Hi, Tony, It is long past time to get over any thoughts about reclaiming IPv4 space. It will never happen. No organization is going to give up any they have until we are well past the point where anyone cares about getting more. IPv4 has reached the point of success/failure and is a dead end

Re: IAOC Responsibilities

2005-02-03 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
Bob, neither your comment nor Patrice's comment reassure my stated concern that designating the IAOC as an entity that would be taking legal responsibility separate from ISOC would expose its members to personal liability. I believe that letting the BCP task the IASA with this responsibility

Re: IAOC Responsibilities

2005-02-03 Thread Leslie Daigle
To emphasize something that Harald said -- my read of the discussion on this list is that the matter requires more discussion. It also requires more attention to detail than should go into the BCP. For example, from the discussion on the list, it's pretty clear that at least some people question

Re: IAOC Responsibilities

2005-02-03 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
This also calls for a serious review of the related liabilities. If these rights are challenged who is going to pay to sustain the action and the possible damages? Since IASA is not incorporated will the IAOC Members, the ISOC be liable? The ISOC internal relations with their national Chapters

draft-ietf-iasa-bcp-06: ISOC Board of Trustee selection of IAOC member

2005-02-03 Thread Russ Housley
draft-ietf-iasa-bcp-06.txt Structure of the IETF Administrative Support Activity (IASA) (BCP) COMMENT Section 4 includes a discussion of the process for selection of IAOC members. There is not a paragraph that covers the member appointed by the ISOC Board of Trustees. However, the guidance

Re: Last Call: 'Domain Name System (DNS) Case Insensitivity Clarification' to Proposed Standard

2005-02-03 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Thursday, February 03, 2005 12:54:29 AM -0500 stanislav shalunov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeffrey Hutzelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [..T]he _common_ convention is to use a backslash followed by the value of the octet as an unsigned integer represented by exactly three _octal_ digits. This

Re: [Enum] Re: Last Call: 'Voice Messaging Directory Service' to Proposed Standard

2005-02-03 Thread Richard Shockey
At 10:53 AM 2/3/2005, Stastny Richard wrote: Related to the current discussion at the enum list I am not sure if http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-vpim-routing-08.txt http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-vpim-routing-08.txt is ready for last call. It defines enumservices

WSIS working view on the Internet Technical standard

2005-02-03 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
http://wgig.org/docs/WP-techstand.pdf This document is interesting and documents well my positions. Except the need for the user of an organized comprehensive reference center. You will note the mention of possible national influences. This is what the IASA internationalization related few

Something to look forward to at the meeting

2005-02-03 Thread Clint Chaplin
http://www.startribune.com/stories/368/5217727.html -- Clint (JOATMON) Chaplin Wireless Security Technologist Wireless Standards Lead ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: Last Call: 'Domain Name System (DNS) Case Insensitivity Clarification' to Proposed Standard

2005-02-03 Thread stanislav shalunov
Jeffrey Hutzelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ISO/IEC 9899:1990 section 6.1.3.4 has this to say: This differs from my account in not requiring the first octal digit after backslash to be zero. Thank you for correcting that; \61, indeed, works as 1 in C. (Thus, there are enough digits to

Re: IAOC Responsibilities

2005-02-03 Thread Sam Hartman
Bob, I appreciate your interest in working with the IETF to establish the IASA. I also appreciate your interest in improving the BCP. I have been disappointed that you have been sending revised comments on the IPR issue over the last two weeks. However you have not been engaging in a discussion

email document delivery service

2005-02-03 Thread stanislav shalunov
Internet-draft announcements, as they are currently generated, include a MIME-based mechanism to request internet-drafts via email. Do you use this feature? If you do, could you please let me know? Background: the IETF Tools team is working on a draft, draft-ietf-tools-notification-03.txt, that

Re: IAOC Responsibilities

2005-02-03 Thread Sam Hartman
Hi, Bob. It was pointed out to me privately that my message could be misinterpreted and that it might come across as if I'm not interested in listening to and evaluating proposals for change. That's certainly not my intent so let me take a step back and explain what I was trying to do. I

Re: Last Call: 'Domain Name System (DNS) Case Insensitivity Clarification' to Proposed Standard

2005-02-03 Thread Robert Elz
Date:03 Feb 2005 00:54:29 -0500 From:stanislav shalunov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is totally irrelevant to the doc in question, but ... | Actually, the convention used in C and Perl is to use \0, followed by | zero, one, or two octal

Last Call: 'Server To Server Notification Protocol Requirements' to Proposed Standard

2005-02-03 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Enhancements to Internet email to support diverse service environments WG to consider the following document: - 'Server To Server Notification Protocol Requirements ' draft-ietf-lemonade-notify-s2s-00.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make

Last Call: 'Voice Messaging Directory Service' to Proposed Standard

2005-02-03 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Voice Profile for Internet Mail WG to consider the following documents: - 'Voice Messaging Directory Service ' draft-ietf-vpim-vpimdir-09.txt as a Proposed Standard - 'Voice Message Routing Service ' draft-ietf-vpim-routing-08.txt as a Proposed