Re: Engineering our way out of a brown paper bag [Re: Consensus based on reading tea leaves]

2006-01-08 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 8, 2006, at 2:24 AM, Yaakov Stein wrote: I'd suggest requiring that the image format be GIF, since it's simple, stable, well documented, widely supported in both freeware and commercial software, and the patents have expired. Actually that is not quite right YET. There are patents

RE: Alternative formats for IDs

2006-01-08 Thread Yaakov Stein
While I personally like PDF for many things, I find PDF to be a poor choice for IETF works-in-progress, or even for RFCs because they lack many of the characteristics that ASCII files offer. Don't you mean that ASCII lacks many of the features PDF offers (font faces, font styles, diagrams,

RE: Alternative formats for IDs

2006-01-08 Thread John C Klensin
--On Sunday, 08 January, 2006 14:42 +0200 Yaakov Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I personally like PDF for many things, I find PDF to be a poor choice for IETF works-in-progress, or even for RFCs because they lack many of the characteristics that ASCII files offer. Don't you mean

Re: objection to proposed change to consensus

2006-01-08 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Jan 6, 2006, at 09:02, Sandy Wills wrote: This is not a change; this seems to be the way the IETF works. Many group gatherings work the same way; to me its an intuitive way of getting any/all objections brought up, or establishing that there aren't any, after a period of free

Re: objection to proposed change to consensus

2006-01-08 Thread Sandy Wills
Ken Raeburn wrote: This is not a change; this seems to be the way the IETF works. Many group gatherings work the same way; to me its an intuitive way of getting any/all objections brought up, or establishing that there aren't any, after a period of free discussion. If it's not a