Re: ion-ion-store open for public comment

2006-12-18 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Dave Crocker wrote: Brian E Carpenter wrote: So internet drafts, however ephemeral we claim them to be, are versioned and referenceable. I don't know that the final step (the RFC) is any less permanent than the history we maintain of the drafts leading up to it. That's beside the

Re: ion-ion-format open for public comment

2006-12-18 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Frank Ellermann wrote: Brian Carpenter wrote: Please see http://www.ietf.org/IESG/content/ions/drafts/ion-ion-format.txt It says text or html, but ion-ion-store is perfectly valid XHTML. Is that a problem ? I don't think so, do you? The HTML output of xml2rfc is rather ugly with my

Re: draft status links on the wg pages?

2006-12-18 Thread Jari Arkko
Dave, Given that the Tools folk have created yet-another useful mechanism, making each working group's page have a link to its related status information now becomes a trivial effort, with substantial benefit. This would be useful. (FWIW, I've already moved to using only the tools page -- you

HOKEY interim meeting on January 23rd

2006-12-18 Thread Russ Housley
The HOKEY WG will hold a one-day interim meeting. The CAPWAP WG will hold an interim meeting at the same location on the two days following the HOKEY WG interim meeting. Here are the details: HOKEY WG Interim Meeting Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:00 AM - 5:00 PM (PDT)

nomcom:Soliciting feedback from entire working groups?

2006-12-18 Thread Sam Hartman
If I'm reading the following mail correctly, it sounds like the nomcom is requesting feedback from a working group mailing list. In other words anyone who creates a tools.ietf.org account for that address can see the short list of candidates. At that point, shouldn't we just be making the

Re: nomcom:Soliciting feedback from entire working groups?

2006-12-18 Thread Henrik Levkowetz
Hi Sam, Commenting only on the possibility of accessing the candidate list, further down: on 2006-12-18 15:37 Sam Hartman said the following: If I'm reading the following mail correctly, it sounds like the nomcom is requesting feedback from a working group mailing list. In other words

Re: ion-ion-format open for public comment

2006-12-18 Thread Frank Ellermann
Julian Reschke wrote: IMHO it would be a good idea in the sense of own dogfood not to serve XHTML content with media type text/html. Matter of taste, from my POV XHTML 1.0 transitional is the best way to create backwards compatible (HTML 3.2) content visible with any browser. Or as the

Re: nomcom:Soliciting feedback from entire working groups?

2006-12-18 Thread Henning Schulzrinne
Judging from the email addresses where I received solicitations for comments, either every RFC author or every I-D author received an invitation to comment. (I suspect the latter, since the invitations seemed to be tailored by working group, i.e., an I-D in a Transport working group earned

Re: draft status links on the wg pages?

2006-12-18 Thread Frank Ellermann
Dave Crocker wrote: minor enhancement: Put a link to that page on the working group's main IETF page. There's a link to the Charter, isn't that the old main page ? A working group's main page really is its home page and, therefore, ought to bring together references to all relevant

Re: draft status links on the wg pages?

2006-12-18 Thread Michael Thomas
Dave Crocker wrote: Bill Fenner wrote: Mike, Check out http://tools.ietf.org/wg/wgname and see if that gives you the view you're looking for. Bill, thanks. I suspect that's what Michael has in mind, except for one minor enhancement: Put a link to that page on the working group's main

Re: draft status links on the wg pages?

2006-12-18 Thread Henrik Levkowetz
Hi Dave, Frank, on 2006-12-18 17:20 Frank Ellermann said the following: Dave Crocker wrote: minor enhancement: Put a link to that page on the working group's main IETF page. Good idea. And actually already implemented some time ago. Looking at for instance the mip4 charter page, at

Re: nomcom:Soliciting feedback from entire working groups?

2006-12-18 Thread Doug Ewell
I received four of these, apparently on the strength of being an RFC author, and was immediately sure there had been a mistake. Henning Schulzrinne wrote: Judging from the email addresses where I received solicitations for comments, either every RFC author or every I-D author received an

Re: draft status links on the wg pages?

2006-12-18 Thread Dave Crocker
Michael Thomas wrote: Given that the Tools folk have created yet-another useful mechanism, making each working group's page have a link to its related status information now becomes a trivial effort, with substantial benefit. Right, this is really cool -- although a link from the ietf wg page

Re: nomcom:Soliciting feedback from entire working groups?

2006-12-18 Thread Dave Crocker
Sam Hartman wrote: If I'm reading the following mail correctly, it sounds like the nomcom is requesting feedback from a working group mailing list. In other words anyone who creates a tools.ietf.org account for that address can see the short list of candidates. At that point, shouldn't we

Re: ion-ion-store open for public comment

2006-12-18 Thread Dave Crocker
Brian E Carpenter wrote: As for you last sentence, perhaps it should give some pause. The idea that we do not already have a pretty clear idea of what should distinguish an I-D from an ION ought to engender concern. Like any other project consuming significant resources, an experiment is

CAPWAP Interim Meeting, January 24th 25th

2006-12-18 Thread Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)
The CAPWAP WG will hold a two-day interim meeting. Here are the details: CAPWAP WG Interim Meeting Wednesday Thursday, January 24 25, 2007 9:00am - 5:00pm (PDT) 3750 Cisco Way (Building 15) San Jose, CA, USA More information about the CAPWAP WG can be found on our charter page:

Nomcom O6 categories -- GEN == Chair?

2006-12-18 Thread Dave Crocker
I assume that the nominee sub-section labeled GEN is really for the IETF Chair? d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: Nomcom O6 categories -- GEN == Chair?

2006-12-18 Thread John C Klensin
--On Monday, December 18, 2006 10:18 AM -0800 Dave Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume that the nominee sub-section labeled GEN is really for the IETF Chair? I think you should assume, given the number of these things that all of us seem to be receiving, that the Nomcom is

IETF 68 hotel full

2006-12-18 Thread Andy Bierman
Hi, There is only one hotel listed for IETF 68: http://www3.ietf.org/meetings/68-hotels.html There are no more rooms at the IETF rate, and perhaps at any rate. The online form says no rooms are available that week. I'm having trouble finding Pobrezni 1 186 00 Prague 8 Czech Republic with

Nomcom 06 feedback kudos

2006-12-18 Thread Dave Crocker
Folks, In my/our usual fashion, we've slipped into engineering refinement discussions about the Nomcom's new mechanism for soliciting feedback, without commenting separately about the basic existence of that effort. So here is an unqualified thank you to the Nomcom folks

Re: Nomcom O6 categories -- GEN == Chair?

2006-12-18 Thread Henrik Levkowetz
Hi Dave, on 2006-12-18 19:18 Dave Crocker said the following: I assume that the nominee sub-section labeled GEN is really for the IETF Chair? Yes. I'll fix that in a moment. Henrik ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

Re: IETF 68 hotel full

2006-12-18 Thread Janet P Gunn
IIRC the hotel web site has a map. You could use that to find the names of nearby streets. Janet Andy Bierman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/18/2006 01:37:43 PM: Hi, There is only one hotel listed for IETF 68: http://www3.ietf.org/meetings/68-hotels.html There are no more rooms at the

Re: IETF 68 hotel full

2006-12-18 Thread Andy Bierman
Janet P Gunn wrote: IIRC the hotel web site has a map. You could use that to find the names of nearby streets. Really? Where? The one I found didn't have street names. http://www1.hilton.com/en_US/hi/hotel/PRGHITW/directions.do#localmap Janet Andy Andy Bierman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: nomcom:Soliciting feedback from entire working groups?

2006-12-18 Thread Markus.Isomaki
Hi, Dave Crocker wrote: At that point, shouldn't we just be making the short list public? 1. They are careful to say that the lists that are stuffed with some fake entries. Although I respect the intention, this long-standing technique -- attempting to protect the privacy of actual

Re: IETF 68 hotel full

2006-12-18 Thread Andy Bierman
Andrew G. Malis wrote: You're much better off following this link (but I think you have to use Internet Explorer for it to work): http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2cp=50.09292~14.437961style=rlvl=17tilt=-90dir=0alt=-1000rtp=null~null

Re: IETF 68 hotel full

2006-12-18 Thread John Levine
I'm having trouble finding Pobrezni 1 186 00 Prague 8 Czech Republic with online maps. I believe hotel is toward the west end of the street, near the bridge to the island in the river: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=ene=UTF8om=1ie=UTF8z=16ll=50.092682,14.443717spn=0.009375,0.016673 On the

Re: ion-ion-store open for public comment

2006-12-18 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Sunday, December 17, 2006 06:05:45 PM -0800 Dave Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One might want to wonder, a bit, about the IETF's having a growing number of such documents, and that this might make it more difficult to know enough about IETF procedures and the like On the contrary, I

Re: ion-ion-store open for public comment

2006-12-18 Thread Dave Crocker
Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: One might want to wonder, a bit, about the IETF's having a growing number of such documents, and that this might make it more difficult to know enough about IETF procedures and the like On the contrary, I don't think the process has gotten any more complex; we just

Re: Nomcom06: IAB Member Candidate Feedback

2006-12-18 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On Dec 17, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Nomcom06 wrote: The NomCom requests that you provide your input as soon as possible, for full consideration, please have them in no later than the end of the day, Tuesday, January 2, 2007. Folks, you might want to consider that it's the week before Christmas.

Document Action: 'Network Mobility Support Goals and Requirements' to Informational RFC

2006-12-18 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Network Mobility Support Goals and Requirements ' draft-ietf-nemo-requirements-06.txt as an Informational RFC This document is the product of the Network Mobility Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Jari Arkko and Mark Townsley. A

Document Action: 'TCP Friendly Rate Control (TFRC): the Small-Packet (SP) Variant' to Experimental RFC

2006-12-18 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'TCP Friendly Rate Control (TFRC): the Small-Packet (SP) Variant ' draft-ietf-dccp-tfrc-voip-07.txt as an Experimental RFC This document is the product of the Datagram Congestion Control Protocol Working Group. The IESG contact persons are

Protocol Action: 'Exclude Routes - Extension to RSVP-TE' to Proposed Standard

2006-12-18 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Exclude Routes - Extension to RSVP-TE ' draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-exclude-route-06.txt as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Ross Callon and

Protocol Action: 'Padding Chunk and Parameter for SCTP' to Proposed Standard

2006-12-18 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Padding Chunk and Parameter for SCTP ' draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-padding-02.txt as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Transport Area Working Group Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Lars Eggert and Magnus

RFC 4742 on Using the NETCONF Configuration Protocol over Secure SHell (SSH)

2006-12-18 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 4742 Title: Using the NETCONF Configuration Protocol over Secure SHell (SSH) Author: M. Wasserman, T. Goddard Status: Standards Track

RFC 4743 on Using NETCONF over the Simple Object Access Protocol (SOAP)

2006-12-18 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 4743 Title: Using NETCONF over the Simple Object Access Protocol (SOAP) Author: T. Goddard Status: Standards Track Date: December

RFC 4733 on RTP Payload for DTMF Digits, Telephony Tones, and Telephony Signals

2006-12-18 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 4733 Title: RTP Payload for DTMF Digits, Telephony Tones, and Telephony Signals Author: H. Schulzrinne, T. Taylor Status: Standards Track

RFC 4741 on the NETCONF Configuration Protocol

2006-12-18 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 4741 Title: NETCONF Configuration Protocol Author: R. Enns, Ed. Status: Standards Track Date: December 2006 Mailbox:[EMAIL PROTECTED]