Itojun Service Award Announcement

2010-04-02 Thread Jun Murai
Dear IETFers, Please note below regarding the Itojun Service Award. Thanks in advance, Jun Murai === ANNOUNCING: CALL FOR CANDIDATES FOR ITOJUN SERVICE AWARD The Itojun Service Award is presented every year to an individual or a group who has made outstanding contributions in service to the IPv6

Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

2010-04-02 Thread Andrew G. Malis
I'm with Joe on this. I also travel extensively, including in non-tourist areas, and have never had my US Visa or Mastercard declined because it didn't have a chip. Cheers, Andy On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote: On 2010-03-31, at 20:56, Phillip Hallam-Baker

Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

2010-04-02 Thread Adrian Farrel
Well, I was living in France in spring 2005 when the chip and pin systems went live there. There was a very short period where cards without chip and pin did not work. Two days later, facing the inability to take money from foreigners, signature-based transactions were back. Sometimes

Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

2010-04-02 Thread Julian Reschke
On 02.04.2010 14:44, Adrian Farrel wrote: Well, I was living in France in spring 2005 when the chip and pin systems went live there. There was a very short period where cards without chip and pin did not work. Two days later, facing the inability to take money from foreigners,

Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

2010-04-02 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Apr 2, 2010, at 8:11 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: I'm with Joe on this. I also travel extensively, including in non-tourist areas, and have never had my US Visa or Mastercard declined because it didn't have a chip. At Point of Sale (e.g., restaurants, hotels, stores), no. At automated

Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

2010-04-02 Thread Stefan Winter
Hi, I was living in France in spring 2005 when the chip and pin systems went live there. There was a very short period where cards without chip and pin did not work. Two days later, facing the inability to take money from foreigners, signature-based transactions were back. Sometimes

Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

2010-04-02 Thread Ole Jacobsen
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Apr 2, 2010, at 8:11 AM, Andrew G. Malis wrote: I'm with Joe on this. I also travel extensively, including in non-tourist areas, and have never had my US Visa or Mastercard declined because it didn't have a chip. At Point of Sale (e.g.,

Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

2010-04-02 Thread Basil Dolmatov
Andrew G. Malis пишет: I'm with Joe on this. I also travel extensively, including in non-tourist areas, and have never had my US Visa or Mastercard declined because it didn't have a chip. In Amsterdam there are shops (e.g. nice cheese shop ;) ) which accept only local chip cards. At the same

Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

2010-04-02 Thread Tim Bray
What Iljitsch doesn't say, and should be said, is that Maastricht is a lovely and charming place in the summer; its central square is one of the nicer places in Europe to linger over lunch or dinner. When I went I rented a car in Frankfurt and enjoyed the Autobahn experience. Not a complicated

Re: NAT Traversal With ICMP Replies

2010-04-02 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
On 2 Apr 2010, at 17:18, Dan Wing wrote: -Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sabahattin Gucukoglu Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:43 PM To: ietf@ietf.org Subject: NAT Traversal With ICMP Replies http://samy.pl/pwnat/ The

Re: Packet mood

2010-04-02 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 4/1/2010 11:05 AM, Fred Baker wrote: So - does RFC 5841 update RFC 3514, or obsolete it? Probably not. RFC 3514 is actually a protocol. RFC 5841 is not. A protocol needs to specify deterministic behavior by participants at both ends of the exchange. Otherwise there cannot be

RE: NAT Traversal With ICMP Replies

2010-04-02 Thread Dan Wing
-Original Message- From: Sabahattin Gucukoglu [mailto:m...@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:48 AM To: Dan Wing Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: NAT Traversal With ICMP Replies On 2 Apr 2010, at 17:18, Dan Wing wrote: -Original Message- From:

Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

2010-04-02 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 4/2/2010 12:18 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: Yes, but we have already concluded that lunch time is not 1.5 hours spent on going to some restaurant in lovely and charming places. Lunch is the 1.5-hour session, dedicated to bar BoFs with a sandwich to eat, in one of the regular meeting rooms. I

Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

2010-04-02 Thread Ralph Droms
So, with all this discussion, I'm still not clear what to expect. When I walk up to a train ticket kiosk in Schiphol, should I expect to be able to use my US-issued, non-chip credit card (AMEX, VISA - I don't care as long as *one* of them works), or should I have a fistful of Euros handy?

Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

2010-04-02 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Apr 2, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Ralph Droms wrote: So, with all this discussion, I'm still not clear what to expect. When I walk up to a train ticket kiosk in Schiphol, should I expect to be able to use my US-issued, non-chip credit card (AMEX, VISA - I don't care as long as *one* of them

Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

2010-04-02 Thread Chris Elliott
Yes. Expect them to work and bring cash! That said, some of us with American cards will be arriving the Tuesday before. I'll post the results of our travels and trials . Chris. -- Chris Elliott On Apr 2, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Ralph Droms rdroms.i...@gmail.com wrote: So, with all this

Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

2010-04-02 Thread Bob Hinden
Ralph, On Apr 2, 2010, at 1:56 PM, Ralph Droms wrote: So, with all this discussion, I'm still not clear what to expect. When I walk up to a train ticket kiosk in Schiphol, should I expect to be able to use my US-issued, non-chip credit card (AMEX, VISA - I don't care as long as *one* of

Re: NAT Traversal With ICMP Replies

2010-04-02 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
On 2 Apr 2010, at 18:08, Dan Wing wrote: -Original Message- From: Sabahattin Gucukoglu [mailto:m...@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:48 AM To: Dan Wing Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: NAT Traversal With ICMP Replies On 2 Apr 2010, at 17:18, Dan Wing wrote:

RE: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

2010-04-02 Thread Hadriel Kaplan
Not to belabor this thread, but... I was in Schiphol the week before IETF Anaheim and bought a train ticket. *None* of the my cards worked (Amex, Visa, Mastercard, and a debit, and yes I tried all of them). In fact, not only did they not work at the machines, but they were not accepted at

RE: NAT Traversal With ICMP Replies

2010-04-02 Thread Dan Wing
On 2 Apr 2010, at 18:08, Dan Wing wrote: -Original Message- From: Sabahattin Gucukoglu [mailto:m...@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:48 AM To: Dan Wing Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: NAT Traversal With ICMP Replies On 2 Apr 2010, at 17:18, Dan Wing

Re: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

2010-04-02 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 4/2/2010 3:46 PM, Hadriel Kaplan wrote: p.s. on the other hand they have excellent licorice and hagelslag. :) You could pay with licorice? Did they make change with fennel? d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net ___

RE: Advance travel info for IETF-78 Maastricht

2010-04-02 Thread Hadriel Kaplan
-Original Message- From: Dave CROCKER [mailto:d...@dcrocker.net] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 7:02 PM To: Hadriel Kaplan On 4/2/2010 3:46 PM, Hadriel Kaplan wrote: p.s. on the other hand they have excellent licorice and hagelslag. :) You could pay with licorice? Did they

RFC 5816 on ESSCertIDv2 Update for RFC 3161

2010-04-02 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5816 Title: ESSCertIDv2 Update for RFC 3161 Author: S. Santesson, N. Pope Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: April 2010

Ticket system transient failure

2010-04-02 Thread Glen Barney (AMS)
IETF Community - A transient failure in the RT ticketing system used by the secretariat occurred earlier today. As a result, some requests sent in during the past 12 hours may not have been received and processed. If you sent a request to the secretariat today using one of the contact