Re: I-D Action:draft-housley-two-maturity-levels-04.txt

2011-03-15 Thread James M. Polk
At 04:05 PM 3/14/2011, Brian E Carpenter wrote: There are numerous improvements in this version and I hope we can get consensus soon. Just a couple of remarks on 5. Transition to a Standards Track with Two Maturity Levels 1) Probably there should be a statement that all existing Internet

TSVDIR Review for draft-ietf-netext-pmip6-lr-ps

2011-03-15 Thread Yoshifumi Nishida
Hello, I've reviewed this document as part of the transport area directorate's ongoing effort to review key IETF documents. These comments were written primarily for the transport area directors, but are copied to the document's authors for their information and to allow them to address any issues

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-httpbis-content-disp-06.txt (Use of the Content-Disposition Header Field in the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP)) to Proposed Standard

2011-03-15 Thread Julian Reschke
On 28.02.2011 23:43, The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from the Hypertext Transfer Protocol Bis WG (httpbis) to consider the following document: - 'Use of the Content-Disposition Header Field in the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP)' draft-ietf-httpbis-content-disp-06.txt

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-mip4-gre-key-extension-04.txt (GRE Key Extension for Mobile IPv4) to Proposed Standard

2011-03-15 Thread Pekka Savola
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011, The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from the Mobility for IPv4 WG (mip4) to consider the following document: - 'GRE Key Extension for Mobile IPv4' draft-ietf-mip4-gre-key-extension-04.txt as a Proposed Standard I've done an ops-dir review of

Re: I-D Action:draft-housley-two-maturity-levels-04.txt

2011-03-15 Thread Mykyta Yevstifeyev
Hello, 2011/3/14, Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com: There are numerous improvements in this version and I hope we can get consensus soon. Just a couple of remarks on 5. Transition to a Standards Track with Two Maturity Levels 1) Probably there should be a statement that all

Re: I-D Action:draft-housley-two-maturity-levels-04.txt

2011-03-15 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:33 AM, James M. Polk jmp...@cisco.com wrote: Brian playing devil's advocate here... Say someone submits a request for an existing DS to the IESG and it takes 6 months (or 3 months) to get through the process, but only 2 months remain before the 2 year window is up

Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-kanno-tls-camellia-00.txt (Additionx

2011-03-15 Thread Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos
Hello, I had some discussion with Bart Preneel[0] on the use of a 96-bit MAC for the Finished messages. His comments were: My general advice to IETF was to keep half the bits of the internal state of the hash function. For HMAC-MD5 this would be 64 bits, for HMAC-SHA-1 this would be 80 bits and

Re: [TLS] Last Call: draft-kanno-tls-camellia-00.txt (Additionx

2011-03-15 Thread Marsh Ray
On 03/14/2011 05:49 PM, Martin Rex wrote: The MD5 output is 128 bits = 16 bytes, and the input is *MUCH* larger than 128 bits. The master_secret should is 48 bytes alone. Even if one is successful at inverting MD5, one can not undo the collisions from the Finished computation caused by the

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-genarea-datatracker-community-06.txt (Requirements for Internet-Draft Tracking by the IETF Community in the Datatracker) to Informational RFC

2011-03-15 Thread Paul Hoffman
On 3/14/11 2:26 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: Paul - 1) If we publish this as an RFC, note that imgur.com will only keep an image if it's viewed at least once every three months. Good catch. I have added a note in the upcoming -08 that the sentence removed before publication. FWIW, I do not know

Re: I-D Action:draft-housley-two-maturity-levels-04.txt

2011-03-15 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 3/14/2011 2:05 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: 2) More substantively, Any protocol or service that is currently at the Draft Standard maturity level may be reclassified as an Internet Standard as soon as the criteria in Section 2.2 are satisfied. This

Re: I-D Action:draft-housley-two-maturity-levels-04.txt

2011-03-15 Thread Brian Carpenter
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker hal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:33 AM, James M. Polk jmp...@cisco.com wrote: Brian playing devil's advocate here... Say someone submits a request for an existing DS to the IESG and it takes 6 months (or 3 months) to

Re: I-D Action:draft-housley-two-maturity-levels-04.txt

2011-03-15 Thread Brian Carpenter
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Mykyta Yevstifeyev evniki...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, 2011/3/14, Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com: There are numerous improvements in this version and I hope we can get consensus soon. Just a couple of remarks on 5. Transition to a Standards

Re: I-D Action:draft-housley-two-maturity-levels-04.txt

2011-03-15 Thread Brian Carpenter
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Dave CROCKER d...@dcrocker.net wrote: On 3/14/2011 2:05 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: 2) More substantively, Any protocol or service that is currently at the Draft Standard maturity level may be reclassified as an Internet Standard as soon as the

Re: Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-isis-genapp-04

2011-03-15 Thread Stewart Bryant
I will put a note in the tracker Stewart On 15/03/2011 19:52, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote: -Original Message- From: Ben Campbell [mailto:b...@nostrum.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:26 PM To: draft-ietf-isis-genapp@tools.ietf.org Cc: General Area Review Team; The IETF

Re: XKCD - Nanobots

2011-03-15 Thread Michael Richardson
Bob == Bob Hinden bob.hin...@gmail.com writes: I'm sorry, but how could this *not* be posted to the IETF list? http://xkcd.com/865/ Bob I did a rough calculation and think they would have not run out Bob of IPv6 addresses :-) Bob I assumed a nanobot was 1 x 10^-6

Re: I-D Action:draft-housley-two-maturity-levels-04.txt

2011-03-15 Thread James M. Polk
At 02:05 PM 3/15/2011, Brian Carpenter wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker hal...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:33 AM, James M. Polk jmp...@cisco.com wrote: Brian playing devil's advocate here... Say someone submits a request for an existing DS to

Re: XKCD - Nanobots

2011-03-15 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
Have you considered the possibility that you might be over-analyzing the joke here? On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Michael Richardson m...@sandelman.cawrote: Bob == Bob Hinden bob.hin...@gmail.com writes: I'm sorry, but how could this *not* be posted to the IETF list?

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-genarea-charter-tool-07.txt (Requirements for a Working Group Charter Tool) to Informational RFC

2011-03-15 Thread Robert Sparks
Hi Paul - In section 2.2, I would prefer either using the names the tracker currently uses for IESG evaluation: Discuss and Comment, or some set of words that do not intersect those, perhaps Blocking and Not-Blocking. The current set (discuss and regular) will lead to confusion. In section

Re: I-D Action:draft-housley-two-maturity-levels-04.txt

2011-03-15 Thread Martin Rex
Dave CROCKER wrote: Brian E Carpenter wrote: Any documents that are still classified as Draft Standard two years after the publication of this RFC will be automatically downgraded to Proposed Standard. 1. While the accounting ugliness of leaving these untouched is

Re: I-D Action:draft-housley-two-maturity-levels-04.txt

2011-03-15 Thread Bill McQuillan
On Tue, 2011-03-15, Martin Rex wrote: Dave CROCKER wrote: Brian E Carpenter wrote: Any documents that are still classified as Draft Standard two years after the publication of this RFC will be automatically downgraded to Proposed Standard. 1. While the accounting

Re: I-D Action:draft-housley-two-maturity-levels-04.txt

2011-03-15 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2011-03-16 11:22, Martin Rex wrote: Dave CROCKER wrote: Brian E Carpenter wrote: Any documents that are still classified as Draft Standard two years after the publication of this RFC will be automatically downgraded to Proposed Standard. 1. While the accounting ugliness of

RFC 6171 on The Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP) Don't Use Copy Control

2011-03-15 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6171 Title: The Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP) Don't Use Copy Control Author: K. Zeilenga Status: Standards Track Stream:

RFC 6178 on Label Edge Router Forwarding of IPv4 Option Packets

2011-03-15 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6178 Title: Label Edge Router Forwarding of IPv4 Option Packets Author: D. Smith, J. Mullooly, W. Jaeger, T. Scholl Status:

RFC 6181 on Threat Analysis for TCP Extensions for Multipath Operation with Multiple Addresses

2011-03-15 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6181 Title: Threat Analysis for TCP Extensions for Multipath Operation with Multiple Addresses Author: M. Bagnulo Status: Informational

IETF 80 - Registration: Early Bird Cut-off

2011-03-15 Thread IETF Secretariat
80th IETF Meeting Prague, Czech Republic March 27 - April 1, 2011 Host: CZ.NIC 1. Registration - Early Bird Cut-off Friday, March 18, 2011 2. Social Event 1. Registration - Early Bird Cut-off is March 18, 2011 Early-Bird: $650 USD, if paid in full prior to 1700 PDT March 18.