Joe,
On 08/09/2012 04:58, Joe Touch wrote:
On Sep 7, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org wrote:
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And I think those are very different things. The fact that expired drafts
used to not be available for public viewing on the IETF site does not, by
itself, mean that
Keeping I-D's around forever is incredibly important form a historical,
technical, and legal perspective. They people understand how we work, think,
and develop protocols (history). They help people what was tried and did or did
not succeed (technology). And they provide a record of the state
On Sep 8, 2012, at 13:02, Eric Burger eburge...@standardstrack.com wrote:
Keeping I-D's around forever is incredibly important form a historical,
technical, and legal perspective. They people understand how we work, think,
and develop protocols (history). They help people what was tried and
On 9/7/12 7:58 PM, Joe Touch wrote:
What can that mean if it remains available to the public? What
purpose does such an automatic timeout have if it is left up? IMO,
none.
It seems to me that the timeout takes the draft out of consideration.
If someone wants to have a discussion about it, it
On 9/8/2012 1:14 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
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The factual reality is that I-D's have always been more or less perpetual,
given that anonymous FTP has existed longer than any I-D.
It has always been the case that some sites have violated the copyright
and explicit instructions of IDs.
On 9/8/2012 8:19 AM, Melinda Shore wrote:
On 9/7/12 7:58 PM, Joe Touch wrote:
What can that mean if it remains available to the public? What
purpose does such an automatic timeout have if it is left up? IMO,
none.
It seems to me that the timeout takes the draft out of consideration.
A
On 9/8/12 10:51 AM, Joe Touch wrote:
Nothing about an ID is inherently obsolete or out of date after 6 months
except its being publicly available on authorized sites (up until now).
I think this is absolutely incorrect. Internet Drafts are IETF
documents, and expiration changes the
Hi Joe,
At 11:51 08-09-2012, Joe Touch wrote:
Note - I don't agree that past IDs should be posted after expiration
without the author's consent. They were submitted with that
understanding, and post-facto changing it by the IETF is not appropriate.
I would rephrase the above as whether it is
On 9/8/2012 11:59 AM, Melinda Shore wrote:
On 9/8/12 10:51 AM, Joe Touch wrote:
Nothing about an ID is inherently obsolete or out of date after 6 months
except its being publicly available on authorized sites (up until now).
I think this is absolutely incorrect. Internet Drafts are IETF
