Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-10 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi John, On 9/9/12 8:43 PM, John Levine wrote: Let's say I write to the IESG and say this: Due to a late night editing error, draft-foo-bar-42 which I submitted yesterday contains several paragraphs of company confidential information which you can easily see are irrelevant to the

Re: IETF...the unconference of SDOs

2012-09-10 Thread Tony Finch
Michael Richardson {quigon} m...@sandelman.ca wrote: Let me suggest that at the IETF, where the mailing list is king, you can't join the Elite if you can't quote email properly. Maybe we should *state* this. :-) Maybe I'm also concerned because many in the former elite have moved to Apple

RE: the usual mail stuff, was IETF...the unconference of SDOs

2012-09-10 Thread Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
If someone wants to provide guidance on how to do a least bad job with Outlook, that will be gratefully received. But advice that says don't use Outlook will be filed with the advice that says pick another employer to work for. -- Christopher Dearlove Senior Principal Engineer, Communications

Re: the usual mail stuff, was IETF...the unconference of SDOs

2012-09-10 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:46, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) chris.dearl...@baesystems.com wrote: If someone wants to provide guidance on how to do a least bad job with Outlook, that will be gratefully received. I'm not an expert for this, but, as far as I am aware of, it has not been possible to

Re: the usual mail stuff, was IETF...the unconference of SDOs

2012-09-10 Thread Marc Petit-Huguenin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/10/2012 03:46 AM, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) wrote: If someone wants to provide guidance on how to do a least bad job with Outlook, that will be gratefully received. But advice that says don't use Outlook will be filed with the advice that

RE: Proposed IETF Meeting Calendar 2018 - 2022

2012-09-10 Thread Black, David
The first week of November dates for 2018, 2021 and 2022 are likely to conflict with T10 (SCSI storage standards body). Thanks, --David (storm WG co-chair) -Original Message- From: wgchairs-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:wgchairs-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of IETF Administrative Director

Re: IETF 95 Date Change Proposal - Round 2

2012-09-10 Thread lizhong . jin
Hi Ray, 1-3 April 2016 will be holiday in China. If the time is 3-8 April, then many Chinese attendees have to give up the holiday. Would you propose another time? Thank you. Lizhong - Forwarded on 2012-09-10 09:40 - IETF Administrative Director i...@ietf.org Sender:

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-10 Thread David Borman
On Sep 8, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Joe Touch to...@isi.edu wrote: On 9/8/2012 11:59 AM, Melinda Shore wrote: On 9/8/12 10:51 AM, Joe Touch wrote: Nothing about an ID is inherently obsolete or out of date after 6 months except its being publicly available on authorized sites (up until now). I

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-popimap-downgrade-07.txt (Post-delivery Message Downgrading for Internationalized Email Messages) to Proposed Standard

2012-09-10 Thread Franck Martin
I'm happier, Made comments in another thread on why I believe it opens a security hole wider rather than trying to close it. I guess I could leave with it, when this downgrade is only done from a SMTPUTF8 compatible MTA to an ASCII MTA. I mean a SMTPUTF8 MTA MUST reject such downgrade. Let's

Re: IETF...the unconference of SDOs

2012-09-10 Thread Dave Crocker
On 9/10/2012 1:47 AM, Tony Finch wrote: Michael Richardson {quigon} m...@sandelman.ca wrote: Let me suggest that at the IETF, where the mailing list is king, you can't join the Elite if you can't quote email properly. Maybe we should *state* this. ... message/rfc822 attachments don't work.

Re: IETF...the unconference of SDOs

2012-09-10 Thread Donald Eastlake
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Noel Chiappa j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu wrote: From: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com i say scott should teach emacs :) Epsilon, dude! Who the heck wants to write their editor extensions in freaking LISP? :-) http://xkcd.com/297/ Thanks, Donald

Re: the usual mail stuff, was IETF...the unconference of SDOs

2012-09-10 Thread Simon Perreault
Le 2012-09-10 06:46, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) a écrit : If someone wants to provide guidance on how to do a least bad job with Outlook, that will be gratefully received. Found this using the Google: http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/ No idea if it's any good as I don't

Re: IETF 95 Date Change Proposal - Round 2

2012-09-10 Thread Ofer Inbar
lizhong@zte.com.cn wrote: 1-3 April 2016 will be holiday in China. If the time is 3-8 April, then many Chinese attendees have to give up the holiday. Would you propose another time? Thank you. I think there's probably always either a major holiday somewhere or another conference that the

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-10 Thread ned+ietf
On 9/9/12 8:43 PM, John Levine wrote: Let's say I write to the IESG and say this: Due to a late night editing error, draft-foo-bar-42 which I submitted yesterday contains several paragraphs of company confidential information which you can easily see are irrelevant to the

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-10 Thread John R Levine
Let's say I write to the IESG and say this: Due to a late night editing error, draft-foo-bar-42 which I submitted yesterday contains several paragraphs of company confidential information which you can easily see are irrelevant to the draft. My boss wants it taken down pronto, even

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-10 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:26:29AM -0700, ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com wrote: No, the response is that we refer you to our policy. As an open organization we do not remove information once posted, except under extraordinary circumstances. Exactly. This sort of thing is wh a policy is

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-10 Thread ned+ietf
Let's say I write to the IESG and say this: Due to a late night editing error, draft-foo-bar-42 which I submitted yesterday contains several paragraphs of company confidential information which you can easily see are irrelevant to the draft. My boss wants it taken down pronto, even

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-10 Thread Joe Touch
On 9/10/2012 8:24 AM, David Borman wrote: ... The original reason for expiring drafts, along with giving them long, complicated names that includes the word draft, was to keep them from being referenced as if they were standards, based on experience gathered from the short lived IDEA document

Re: [ietf-privacy] draft-moonesamy-privacy-identifiers-00

2012-09-10 Thread Robin Wilton
Absolutely Robin Wilton Technical Outreach Director - Identity and Privacy Internet Society email: wil...@isoc.org Phone: +44 705 005 2931 Twitter: @futureidentity On 10 Sep 2012, at 11:58, Bryan McLaughlin (brmclaug) wrote: HI Robin, I agree it is ’blurry’ My point was that we,

Last Call: draft-ietf-dime-erp-12.txt (Diameter Support for the EAP Re-authentication Protocol (ERP)) to Proposed Standard

2012-09-10 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Diameter Maintenance and Extensions WG (dime) to consider the following document: - 'Diameter Support for the EAP Re-authentication Protocol (ERP)' draft-ietf-dime-erp-12.txt as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks,

Protocol Action: 'Definition of Managed Objects for the Neighborhood Discovery Protocol' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-mib-19.txt)

2012-09-10 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Definition of Managed Objects for the Neighborhood Discovery Protocol' (draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-mib-19.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Mobile Ad-hoc Networks Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Adrian Farrel

RFC 6712 on Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure -- HTTP Transfer for the Certificate Management Protocol (CMP)

2012-09-10 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6712 Title: Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure -- HTTP Transfer for the Certificate Management Protocol (CMP) Author: T. Kause, M.

RFC 6716 on Definition of the Opus Audio Codec

2012-09-10 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6716 Title: Definition of the Opus Audio Codec Author: JM. Valin, K. Vos, T. Terriberry Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF

RFC 6719 on The Minimum Rank with Hysteresis Objective Function

2012-09-10 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6719 Title: The Minimum Rank with Hysteresis Objective Function Author: O. Gnawali, P. Levis Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF

RFC 6724 on Default Address Selection for Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6)

2012-09-10 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6724 Title: Default Address Selection for Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Author: D. Thaler, Ed., R. Draves, A.