Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-19 Thread Joe Touch
On 9/16/2012 6:56 AM, Lawrence Conroy wrote: ... It is VERY useful to be able to search through drafts to see how we got here, AND to see things that were explored and abandoned. Thieves find it very useful to have what they steal. That doesn't legitimize their theft. Utility can

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-19 Thread joel jaeggli
On 9/18/12 11:46 PM, Joe Touch wrote: On 9/16/2012 6:56 AM, Lawrence Conroy wrote: ... It is VERY useful to be able to search through drafts to see how we got here, AND to see things that were explored and abandoned. Thieves find it very useful to have what they steal. That doesn't

Re: copyright notices in RFC 6716

2012-09-19 Thread Simon Josefsson
Russ, I had missed that section (which seems like a wonderful section btw). However the license isn't what my initial question was about, so this is a red herring. This also explains why I wasn't able to follow Cullen's initial reply. My question was about the copyright header. Let's see if I

Re: Gen-ART LC Review of draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade-07

2012-09-19 Thread John C Klensin
--On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 21:24 -0500 Ben Campbell b...@nostrum.com wrote: I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq . Please resolve these comments along with any

Re: Gen-ART LC Review of draft-ietf-eai-5738bis-09

2012-09-19 Thread John C Klensin
Following up on my earlier note about a comment from you that really applies to the strategy on which all four documents are really based... --On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 20:44 -0500 Ben Campbell b...@nostrum.com wrote: ... Along the same lines, section 7 seems to go to lengths to

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-19 Thread Martin Rex
Joe Touch wrote: Lawrence Conroy wrote: It is VERY useful to be able to search through drafts to see how we got here, AND to see things that were explored and abandoned. Thieves find it very useful to have what they steal. That doesn't legitimize their theft. Utility can determine

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-19 Thread John Levine
Utility can determine whether it's worth the effort/expense to run a public archive, but your utility never undermines my rights as an author. We're very deep into Junior Lawyer territory here. You might want to review RFC 3978, section 3.3a, in which contributors make a: perpetual,

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-19 Thread Joe Touch
On 9/19/2012 11:24 AM, John Levine wrote: Utility can determine whether it's worth the effort/expense to run a public archive, but your utility never undermines my rights as an author. We're very deep into Junior Lawyer territory here. I'm not. I'm simply refuting *any* argument that

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-19 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Sep 19, 2012, at 22:28, Joe Touch to...@isi.edu wrote: I'm simply refuting *any* argument that starts with because it's useful to the community. Interestingly, these kinds of arguments are the only ones I'm interested in. Until there is a court decision impacting this usefulness (or one

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-19 Thread John Levine
In article 505a2b08.70...@isi.edu you write: On 9/19/2012 11:24 AM, John Levine wrote: Utility can determine whether it's worth the effort/expense to run a public archive, but your utility never undermines my rights as an author. We're very deep into Junior Lawyer territory here. I'm not.

Last Call: draft-ietf-6man-dad-proxy-05.txt (Duplicate Address Detection Proxy) to Proposed Standard

2012-09-19 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the IPv6 Maintenance WG (6man) to consider the following document: - 'Duplicate Address Detection Proxy' draft-ietf-6man-dad-proxy-05.txt as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this

WG Action: Conclusion of Decoupled Application Data Enroute (decade)

2012-09-19 Thread IESG Secretary
The Decoupled Application Data Enroute (decade) working group in the Transport Area has concluded. The IESG contact persons are Martin Stiemerling and Wesley Eddy. The DECADE working group will be closed after having completed the below listed RFCs, but before finishing all of its chartered

RFC 6705 on Localized Routing for Proxy Mobile IPv6

2012-09-19 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6705 Title: Localized Routing for Proxy Mobile IPv6 Author: S. Krishnan, R. Koodli, P. Loureiro, Q. Wu, A. Dutta Status:

NomCom 2012: [REMINDER] Nominations and Feedback

2012-09-19 Thread NomCom Chair
This is a reminder that any nominations for IETF leadership positions must be sent to the NomCom on or before Monday, September 24. Additionally, the NomCom requests that the community provide feedback to the NomCom about the individuals that are being considered for leadership positions.