Dear all,
I have been following this discussing since and I'm learning a lot. Many
thanks to all contributors and special Thanks to
Phillip Hallam-Baker who initiated it.
Happy and Prosperous New Year 2013 to the IETF Family!
Best Regards,
Victor Ndonnang.
On 02/01/2013 02:11, John Day wrote:
On 01/01/2013 18:32, John Day wrote:
...
Not only tariffs. Historically, it was national enforcement of
international
regulations set by CCITT (now known as ITU-T) that prevented
interconnection
of leased lines**.
But creating a VPN with in an international carrier that crossed
national
At 13:08 31-12-2012, John Day wrote:
jumped all over. Generally, ITU meetings require unanimity to have
a consensus. This
There seems to be different definitions of consensus; each body has
its own meaning for that word.
;-) Why is that daunting? ;-) I hear that excuse often. If we
At 9:03 AM + 1/2/13, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
On 01/01/2013 18:32, John Day wrote:
...
Not only tariffs. Historically, it was national enforcement of
international
regulations set by CCITT (now known as ITU-T) that prevented
interconnection
of leased lines**.
But creating a VPN
At 4:33 AM -0800 1/2/13, SM wrote:
At 13:08 31-12-2012, John Day wrote:
jumped all over. Generally, ITU meetings require unanimity to have
a consensus. This
There seems to be different definitions of consensus; each body has
its own meaning for that word.
No, it isn't that. I have been
Hi!
On 12/29/12 4:19 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Jorge Amodio jmamo...@gmail.com
mailto:jmamo...@gmail.com wrote:
ITU was founded previously as the International Telegraph Union
before AG Bell's phone was patented, no doubt the evolution of
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:33 AM, SM s...@resistor.net wrote:
At 13:08 31-12-2012, John Day wrote:
jumped all over. Generally, ITU meetings require unanimity to have a
consensus. This
There seems to be different definitions of consensus; each body has its
own meaning for that word.
On 02/01/2013 13:44, Carlos M. Martinez wrote:
Radio spectrum allocation was a critical task at the time (it still is,
although the world doesn't depend that much on it anymore), and one of
the task the ITU actually has performed very well, being a positive and
constructive player.
I don't
Interesting as always.
At 9:14 AM -0500 1/2/13, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:33 AM, SM
mailto:s...@resistor.nets...@resistor.net wrote:
At 13:08 31-12-2012, John Day wrote:
jumped all over. Generally, ITU meetings require unanimity to have
a consensus. This
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:46 AM, John Day jeanj...@comcast.net wrote:
**
Interesting as always.
But beyond the illegitimate concerns, there are some important legitimate
ones. In particular a country like France has to be concerned that if it
gets into a trade dispute with the US that the US
On Dec 29, 2012, at 10:19 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
to be honest I prefer don't comment your emails - but this time I changed mu
rules...
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Jorge Amodio jmamo...@gmail.com wrote:
As the multistakeholder model and its associated processes, which
Noel Chiappa
Monday, December
31, 2012 11:27 AM
...It's been quite a
ride.
born in 1963, i felt throughout the 70's and 80's that i had been born
too late, that all the fun stuff had been done already. now in the 10's i
feel like we're just getting going and that i
Dave == Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net writes:
Dave Quick, name five reasons to go to Orlando. Here are mine:
Dave Puerto Rican
Dave delicacies, alternative cinema, craft beer, African-American
Dave history and
Dave psychic readings...
Good... but how to get there?
We
Happy slow start of 2013!
Sent from my iPad
On 31 dec. 2012, at 18:21, IETF Chair ch...@ietf.orgmailto:ch...@ietf.org
wrote:
Happy New Year. It is already 2013 in some part of the world.
The ARPANET transitioned to TCP/IP on 1 January 1983. That was 30 years ago,
and it was a huge
Hi Dave,
Sorry for a late reply addressing your comments. Please, see inline.
Thanks,
Nabil
From: Black, David david.bl...@emc.commailto:david.bl...@emc.com
Date: Monday, August 20, 2012 8:57 PM
To: dinmo...@hotmail.commailto:dinmo...@hotmail.com
dinmo...@hotmail.commailto:dinmo...@hotmail.com,
Carlos M. Martinez
Radio spectrum allocation was a critical task at the time (it still is,
although the world doesn't depend that much on it anymore),
Given the ever increasing number of mobile devices, one could argue that the
world
has never been more dependent on radio spectrum allocation.
Hi,
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Michael Richardson m...@sandelman.ca wrote:
Dave == Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net writes:
Dave Quick, name five reasons to go to Orlando. Here are mine:
Dave Puerto Rican
Dave delicacies, alternative cinema, craft beer, African-American
From: John Day jeanj...@comcast.net
No, there was nothing illegal about it. The reason for acoustic
couplers was that the RJ-11 had been invented yet and it was a pain
to unscrew the box on the wall and re-wire every time you wanted to
connect.
In the 1970s, in the US, and for
On 1/2/13 1:44 PM, Donald Eastlake d3e...@gmail.com wrote:
Good... but how to get there?
We appear to be stuck in the middle of a monster hotel with a single
boulevard and nothing at all nearby (except that there is a shuttle
to Disney)
There are some things on the other side of World
--On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 21:19 + Livingood, Jason
jason_living...@cable.comcast.com wrote:
Things like this?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Florida_All
igator.jpg
;-)
No, we expect those at the plenary as a special prize for boring
presentations :-)
From: John Day jeanj...@comcast.net
I remember when a modem came with an 'acoustic coupler' because
connecting it directly to the phone line was illegal.
No, there was nothing illegal about it. The reason for acoustic
couplers was that the RJ-11 had been invented yet
On 1/2/2013 1:34 PM, ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com wrote:
Now, your point about rewiring the jack may in fact be the reason for
_post-Carterphone_ acoustic couplers, but it was indeed at one time illegal
to connect directly (other than AT+T/WE supplied equipment).
I'm skeptical about this last
On Wed, 2 Jan 2013, ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com wrote:
At one point there was something that said one phone in each home had to be
directly wired without a plug. I don't know if this was a regulation, a phone
company rule, or just a suggestion, but it also fell by the wayside after
On Jan 2, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote:
On 1/2/2013 1:34 PM, ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com wrote:
Now, your point about rewiring the jack may in fact be the reason for
_post-Carterphone_ acoustic couplers, but it was indeed at one time illegal
to connect directly
Hi John,
At 05:11 02-01-2013, John Day wrote:
Could you expand on this?
The question (asked in a previous message) used the word
telecommunication. If one goes by the definition in Y.2001 it may
not fit everybody's view of what telecommunication should
mean. The objectives in Y.2001 are
Good... but how to get there?
If you plan to do anything more than spend the whole trip at the
meeting hotel, you need a car. Orlando is a cheap rental town, it's
not hard to rent something for $100 total for five days.
Cape Canaveral and Cocoa Beach are only an hour away for people who
think
On 1/2/2013 1:34 PM, ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com wrote:
Now, your point about rewiring the jack may in fact be the reason for
_post-Carterphone_ acoustic couplers, but it was indeed at one time illegal
to connect directly (other than AT+T/WE supplied equipment).
I'm skeptical about this
On 2 jan 2013, at 23:21, Warren Kumari war...@kumari.net wrote:
South Africa used weird jacks, shared with Benin, Burundi, Cameroon, Central
African Republic, Cook Islands, Liberia, Namibia and Serbia.
(some pictures here: http://www.networkmuseum.net/2011/06/phone-plugs.html).
The pins
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