RE: Last Call: (Implications of Oversized IPv6 Header Chains) to Proposed Standard

2013-10-14 Thread Templin, Fred L
Hi Brian, > -Original Message- > From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 12:34 PM > To: Templin, Fred L > Cc: Fernando Gont; Ray Hunter; 6man Mailing List; ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Re: Last Call: > (Implications of Oversized IPv6 Heade

Re: Last Call: Adding a fragment identifier to the text/csv media type(see )

2013-10-14 Thread Pete Resnick
On 10/13/13 5:42 AM, t.p. wrote: I find the security considerations in this registration rather weak. What might have sufficed in 2005 seems to me inadequate for 2013. I would expect a clearer statement of what are or are not considered threats or attacks and what mitigations there then are for

Re: Last Call: (Implications of Oversized IPv6 Header Chains) to Proposed Standard

2013-10-14 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Fred, On 15/10/2013 06:38, Templin, Fred L wrote: ... >> We could have that discussion in 6man, sure, but I don't believe that >> it's >> relevant to the question of whether draft-ietf-6man-oversized-header- >> chain >> is ready. > > If it messes up tunnels, then it's not ready. That doesn't fol

Invitation to request an IETF mentor

2013-10-14 Thread IETF Chair
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RE: Last Call: (Implications of Oversized IPv6 Header Chains) to Proposed Standard

2013-10-14 Thread Ronald Bonica
Not that I am aware of. > -Original Message- > From: SM [mailto:s...@resistor.net] > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:20 AM > To: Ronald Bonica > Cc: ietf@ietf.org > Subject: RE: Last Call: > (Implications of Oversized IPv6 Header Chains) to Proposed Standard > > Hi Ron, > At 16:55

RE: Last Call: (Implications of Oversized IPv6 Header Chains) to Proposed Standard

2013-10-14 Thread SM
Hi Ron, At 16:55 13-10-2013, Ronald Bonica wrote: Are you suggesting that we don't address the problem because the code is too complex to touch? It's a known problem since at least seven years. Given that the problem is labelled as a security issue there would have to be some changes to the

RE: Last Call: (Implications of Oversized IPv6 Header Chains) to Proposed Standard

2013-10-14 Thread Templin, Fred L
Hi Ron, > -Original Message- > From: Ronald Bonica [mailto:rbon...@juniper.net] > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 7:07 PM > To: Brian E Carpenter; Templin, Fred L > Cc: Fernando Gont; 6man Mailing List; ietf@ietf.org; Ray Hunter > Subject: RE: Last Call: > (Implications of Oversized IPv6

RE: Last Call: (Implications of Oversized IPv6 Header Chains) to Proposed Standard

2013-10-14 Thread Templin, Fred L
Hi Brian, > -Original Message- > From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 3:42 PM > To: Templin, Fred L > Cc: Fernando Gont; Ray Hunter; 6man Mailing List; ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Re: Last Call: > (Implications of Oversized IPv6 Header

Re: Last Call: Adding a fragment identifier to the text/csv media type (see )

2013-10-14 Thread Tim Bray
I think this is sensible, could be useful, won’t break anything, and probably hits a huge 80/20 points for the ways people might want to address inside spreadsheets. Go ahead and publish it. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:50 AM, The IESG wrote: > The IESG has received a request to update the IANA

Re: Last Call: Adding a fragment identifier to the text/csv media type(see )

2013-10-14 Thread t . p .
- Original Message - From: "Barry Leiba" To: "t.p." Cc: "IETF discussion list" Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 4:31 PM > > I find the security considerations in this registration rather weak. > > What might have sufficed in 2005 seems to me inadequate for 2013. I > > would expect a clea

Re: Terms and Conditions May Apply

2013-10-14 Thread Hector Santos
Youtube URL. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UWRuIXXzYs On 10/13/2013 3:16 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: I know we don't normally do movie plugs on this list, but anyone who's planning to attend the technical plenary in Vancouver could do worse than watch "Terms and Conditions May Apply". It c

Re: Last Call: Adding a fragment identifier to the text/csv media type(see )

2013-10-14 Thread Barry Leiba
> I find the security considerations in this registration rather weak. > What might have sufficed in 2005 seems to me inadequate for 2013. I > would expect a clearer statement of what are or are not considered > threats or attacks and what mitigations there then are for them. Tom, do you have spe

Re: Of governments and representation (was: Montevideo Statement)

2013-10-14 Thread Harald Alvestrand
For what it's worth, I think Russ and Jari did the right thing in signing the statement the way they did, at the time they did it, with the prior consultation they did. I was not consulted. And I'm glad they are capable of acting at this level without consulting me. On 10/11/2013 06:02 PM,

Re: Terms and Conditions May Apply

2013-10-14 Thread Stewart Bryant
On 13/10/2013 20:16, Brian E Carpenter wrote: I know we don't normally do movie plugs on this list, but anyone who's planning to attend the technical plenary in Vancouver could do worse than watch "Terms and Conditions May Apply". It covers both commercial and governmental invasions of privacy, a

Re: Of governments and representation (was: Montevideo Statement)

2013-10-14 Thread Jorge Amodio
There is an important difference between policy and politics. Promoting a politics discussion within the IETF arena will become the demise of the IETF. -J On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Arturo Servin wrote: > > It is clear to me that the IETF cannot be away from Internet > Governance

Re: Of governments and representation (was: Montevideo Statement)

2013-10-14 Thread Jorge Amodio
The problem is not what actually each person said but what "they" say it was said and gets recorded into a statement that has no weight and it is not representative of the entire community. -Jorge > On Oct 12, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Stephen Farrell > wrote: > > > Hiya, > >> On 10/12/2013 01:0

Re: Last Call: Adding a fragment identifier to the text/csv media type (see )

2013-10-14 Thread Alexey Melnikov
On 10/10/2013 19:50, The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request to update the IANA registration of the text/csv media type, adding an optional fragment identifier. The request comes from a document in the Independent stream, and the IESG is the change controller for the text/csv media type.