Title: RE: Splitting the IETF-Announce list?
Why is it a good idea? That's what mail filters are for. With filters, you can create as many folders as you like, and treat them as separate lists. You can even auto delete the messages that you are not interested in.
IETF Announce is just fine-
Title: RE: Jim Fleming's posting privilleges have been revoked
Anthony,
May be you can, but many of us who join IETF list would like to only read something that is related to the charter of the list. My friend, you are supporting the wrong person. The IETF list should not be treated as the
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From: John Day [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
No. it's the world's biggest NAT, and NAT *breaks the end-to-end
model of IP*.
Well, there is a big difference between WAP's breaking the e2e model
and i-mode. WAP does an application gateway and uses no Internet
James,
We have gone through WAP v/s non-WAP threads several times on this
list. Let us hope this does not become another meaningless thread with
little technical merits in the arguments.
What is the use of criticizing a technology? If it is not good for a
purpose, or only the second best, it
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From: Anthony Atkielski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Mahadevan Iyer writes:
At first glance, it seems sheer idiocy to use an open
network like the Internet to control critical matter=
of-life-and-death public infrastructure like power
systems. What do you
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From: Randy Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
It is akin to standardizing on what kind of light can come in your
neighbourhood.
properly done, and with no adjectives or judgement spin, it could be
a
taxonomy of what kinds of light are known. this might be
Bob Braden writes:
-Original Message-
Jon Postel would have said: If it speaks IP (UDP/TCP are not
necessary), then it's Internet, else not.
I will add a bit to this discussion.
1. A WAP phone without an IP address is not an Internet device. And,
no one claims so.
2. A WAP device
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From: Alan Simpkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 2:04 PM
This I can agree with, the next question that
naturally follows then is is WAP the right protocol
for a fixed wireless application, or are we talking
about yet another set of
Vernon Schryver writes
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From: Mohsen BANAN-Public [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
There is a genuine need for a reliable efficient transport that
accommodates *short* and *occasional* exchanges.
There are many occasions where UDP is too little and TCP
is too
There were quite lot of responses to my mail on this topic so here is
what I have to say. It is hard to defend the WAP as only possible
solution or the most elegant solution for any one. Though in the past
few years I spent quite lot of time thinking about how to make data
applications run with
Chuck writes,
It's my understanding that disturbances in The Force
were actually routed using an ancient precursor to IP.
I don't know about it, but the myth goes that ET communicated with his
folks using IP :-). The captured packet trace is
"UndecodableDatalink:IPheader:TCPheader:"ET go
Mohsen writes:
Brijesh PS: By the way, ReFLEX is perfectly fine for two
way messaging
Brijesh applications.
No.
ReFLEX is not perfectly fine.
It is not IP based.
Hi Mohsen,
What kind of argument is this?
If it is not IP based it is not good ! This is an emotional response,
not a
Keith Moore writes:
-Original Message-
WAP might evolve into something more useful, but I don't see
how it will
replace IP in any sense.
One is an architecture for supporting application on diverse wireless
systems, and other is a network layer packet transport mechanism. Two
Mohsen Banan,
I tried hard to agree what you said - but many inaccuracies and
assumptions made in the article made my task so hard that I had to
finally give up reading it. Having spent last several years in the
wireless industry, and also having written some "not-so-open" as you
say, but widely
In his previous mail, Thomas Narten writes:
Now, consider someone in the process of deploying massive numbers of
devices (100's of millions) together with the infrastructure to
support them (e.g., wireless). With IPv4, they face not only the
necessity of using NAT to get to outside
If you are using a GSM 900/1800 network for internet access
what are the
optimal bandwidth qualities, and what are the bandwidth qualities of
existing UMTS networks?
I don't know if I really understand your questions. If you connect with
appropriate modem/device you should be able to
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