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----- Original Message -----
From: "James K. Murray (AMSS Mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mike Haisley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Nicolai Schlenzig (DXD)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Scott Bradner'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Can employers forbid you from talking about IETF activities?
> Employers have the inherent option of forbidding any activities NOT
related
> to your "conditions of employment". Now, I am new to the IETF
announcement
> list, and it was my impression, which I now concede was the wrong
> impression, that I would be informed via Email of any new Internet Drafts.
> While I can appreciate members dilemmas, I think these discussions are
> better suited for chat rooms. If I am on the wrong mailing list, please
> advise.
>
> James
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Haisley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Nicolai Schlenzig (DXD)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Scott
> Bradner'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 10:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Can employers forbid you from talking about IETF activities?
>
>
> > Well...I'm sure Cisco, and Microsoft already have individuals on their
> staff
> > who's sole job is to interact with orginizations such as the ietf...
But
> of
> > course this wasn't the original topic of this thread...the fact of if
> > employers can forbid you from talking about ietf activites...of course
> they
> > can if it's in your contract. Its much the same as the situation free
> > software writers get into with companys who think they own their work...
> A
> > fairly clear letter of authorization/wavier of contract rights should be
> > pursued before begining work on a project to keep yourself in the
clear...
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nicolai Schlenzig (DXD)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "'Scott Bradner'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:02 AM
> > Subject: RE: Can employers forbid you from talking about IETF
activities?
> >
> >
> > > > > The alternative, IMO, is to have IETF participants who are
> > > > employed by
> > > > > industry companies such as Cisco and Microsoft viewed as official
> > > > > representatives of their companies rather than as
> > > > individual (and independent)
> > > > > participants.
> > > >
> > > > would the Cisco rep's opinion count the same as the rep for Bill's
> > > > Bits-to-Go apartment-building-wide ISP?
> > >
> > > I don't see why not. If any person can argument for his/she's cause
and
> > that is held up to actual facts - A's opinion would be as good as B's
> > opinion. You cannot judge a persons knowledge on a given subject by
simply
> > looking at his workplace.
> > >
> > > Of course Cisco or whatever large company probably have chosen their
> rep.
> > with good care and from the first look his opinion would count more. But
> > going into details you might be surprised how little a "general" rep.
from
> a
> > large company can know about certain topics, but still they have to
> > represent it because it's their job (Who says they even have an
interest).
> > The little fellow from bits2go... might as well be an expert on topic as
> > he/she could have been working on topic for a decades!
> > >
> > > Conclusion: John Doe at Big-O-Mighty-World-wide-Company might not know
> as
> > much as Jack Doe from Little-and-Extremely-Competent-Company on a given
> > topic.
> > >
> > > My 2 cents
> > >
> > > -NS
> > >
> >
> >
>
