Re: myth of the great transition (was US Defense Department forma lly adopts IPv6)

2003-06-19 Thread Peter Deutsch
J. Noel Chiappa wrote: From: Keith Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] The reason that we are explaining (once again) why NAT sucks is that some people in this community are still in denial about that The person who's most in denial around here is you - about how definitively the

Re: myth of the great transition

2003-06-19 Thread Peter Deutsch
Keith Moore wrote: expecting the network to isolate insecure hosts from untrustworthy attackers, or more generally, to enforce policy about what kinds of content are permitted to pass, has always been a stretch. So where do firewalls fit into your picture? Do they represent

Re: The utilitiy of IP is at stake here

2003-06-01 Thread Peter Deutsch
-- - Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig Software There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. - Hamlet, Act I, Scene V -

Re: The utilitiy of IP is at stake here

2003-05-31 Thread Peter Deutsch
on this point... - peterd -- - Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig Software Angels fly because they take themselves so lightly

Re: The utilitiy of IP is at stake here

2003-05-31 Thread Peter Deutsch
g'day, Paul Hoffman / IMC wrote: At 10:40 AM -0700 5/30/03, Peter Deutsch wrote: Paul Hoffman / IMC wrote: ... Well, perhaps it's more accurate to say if they thought it could be solved by working with all those nice and entusiastic folks on the IETF general discussion list... ;-) We

Re: The utilitiy of IP is at stake here

2003-05-30 Thread Peter Deutsch
(the spam generators). Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me... - peterd -- - Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig Software Bungle

A peer-to-peer trust system model (was: Re: spam)

2003-05-29 Thread Peter Deutsch
-- - Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig Software Bungle... That's an 'i', you idiot... Oh, right. 'Bingle... - Red

Re: A peer-to-peer trust system model (was: Re: spam)

2003-05-29 Thread Peter Deutsch
that this is something that can be precomputed so it can be obtained somewhat efficiently). So, back comes the Oracle, with the path: Peter Deutsch - Einar Stefferud - Randy Bush - Paul Vixie In other words, there is a trust chain from Einer Stefferud (who trust me), to Randy Bush (who trusts Einar

Re: A peer-to-peer trust system model (was: Re: spam)

2003-05-29 Thread Peter Deutsch
(for the hopefully obvious reason). I wrote: So, back comes the Oracle, with the path: Peter Deutsch - Einar Stefferud - Randy Bush - Paul Vixie Sorry Randy, I'm going to drop you from the example. I think it's funnier if it reads: Peter Deutsch - Einar Stefferud - Kevin Bacon - Paul Vixie

Re: please move the spam discussion elsewhere

2003-05-27 Thread Peter Deutsch
Python SPAM song...) -- --- Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig Software Don't get me wrong: Emacs is a great operating system - it lacks a good editor, though

Re: spam

2003-05-27 Thread Peter Deutsch
-- - Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig Software Bungle... That's an 'i', you idiot... Oh, right. 'Bingle... - Red versus Blue... -

Re: spam

2003-05-27 Thread Peter Deutsch
g'day, Vernon Schryver wrote: From: Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... despite the fact that the vast majority of folks have *not* agreed with you, and some of us have specifically challenged (I wont be so presumptuous as to say refuted) your claim. That's nonsense. There have

A modest proposal (was: Re: spam)

2003-05-27 Thread Peter Deutsch
, but again I agree with Paul. Where is the direction about where we should be heading with this? - peterd -- - Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig Software

Re: Barrel-bottom scraping

2003-03-20 Thread Peter Deutsch
support for the process by using their IETF domain for posting to the IETF lists. What's not to like here? - peterd -- - Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Financial state of the IETF - to be presented Wednesday

2003-03-17 Thread Peter Deutsch
... - peterd -- - Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig Software No, Harry - even in the wizarding world, hearing voices is not a good sign

Why not a .IETF TLD? (was: Re: Financial state of the IETF...)

2003-03-16 Thread Peter Deutsch
they are today... - peterd (who remembers this specific analysis on the cost of cookies cycling round before...) -- - Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history.....

2003-01-12 Thread Peter Deutsch
-- - Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig Software No, Harry - even in the wizarding world, hearing voices is not a good sign... - Hermione Granger --

Re: Searching for depressing moments of Internet history.....

2003-01-12 Thread Peter Deutsch
could always send it to the folks at NIH or whoever it is that funds the biotech stuff - peterd -- - Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig

Re: Please recant or appologize to Jim Flemming

2003-01-07 Thread Peter Deutsch
Craig S. Williams wrote: Can't we all just get a long? Seems more like Strother Martin in Cool Hand Luke What we have here, is a failure to communicate... - peterd - Peter

Re: Spring 2003 IETF - Why San Francisco?

2002-11-25 Thread Peter Deutsch
... :-/ - peterd - Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig Software Time will end all of my troubles, but I don't always approve of time's methods... -

Re: IPR and I-D boilerplate

2002-07-01 Thread Peter Deutsch
. -- - Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig Software That's it for now. Remember to read chapter 11 on the implications of quantum mechanic theory for time travel and be prepared to have been here last week

Re: IPR and I-D boilerplate

2002-07-01 Thread Peter Deutsch
-- - Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig Software That's it for now. Remember to read chapter 11 on the implications of quantum mechanic theory for time travel and be prepared to have been here last week

Re: IPR and I-D boilerplate

2002-07-01 Thread Peter Deutsch
-- - Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig Software That's it for now. Remember to read chapter 11 on the implications of quantum mechanic theory for time travel and be prepared to have been

Re: IPR and I-D boilerplate

2002-06-30 Thread Peter Deutsch
to repeat it and all that - peterd -- - Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig Software That's it for now. Remember to read chapter 11 on the implications

Re: Global PKI on DNS?

2002-06-11 Thread Peter Deutsch
shrapnel... ;-) - peterd -- --- Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had to do an assignment on wild animals, and I decided to do my report on alligators. To complete my

Re: Global PKI on DNS?

2002-06-11 Thread Peter Deutsch
... - peterd -- --- Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had to do an assignment on wild animals, and I decided to do my report on alligators. To complete my research, I took a trip to the zoo. I wanted

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-etal-ietf-analysis-00.txt

2002-03-30 Thread Peter Deutsch
-- --- Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig Software This, my friend, is a pint. It comes in pints?!? I'm getting one!! - Lord of the Rings --

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-etal-ietf-analysis-00.txt

2002-03-29 Thread Peter Deutsch
that is the behaviour you will get Bill -- --- Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig Software This, my friend, is a pint. It comes in pints?!? I'm getting one!! - Lord

Re: IETF Meetings - High Registration Fees

2002-03-18 Thread Peter Deutsch
... - peterd -- --- Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig Software This, my friend, is a pint. It comes in pints?!? I'm getting one!! - Lord

Re: IETF Meetings - High Registration Fees

2002-03-18 Thread Peter Deutsch
... - peterd --- Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gydig Software This, my friend, is a pint. It comes in pints?!? I'm getting one!! - Lord

Re: Yes, conformance testing required... Re: Fwd: Re: IP: Microsoft breaks Mime specification

2002-01-27 Thread Peter Deutsch
-- - Peter Deutsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] All my life I wanted to be someone. I suppose I should have been more specific. - Jane Wagner -

Re: trying to reconcile two threads

2001-11-29 Thread Peter Deutsch
trap, all you get are smarter mice... - peterd -- -- Peter Deutsch work email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Director of Engineering Edge Delivery Products Content Networking

Re: Why IPv6 is a must?

2001-11-27 Thread Peter Deutsch
-- -- Peter Deutsch work email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Director of Engineering Edge Delivery Products Content Networking Business Unit private: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cisco Systems Many people can predict the future. Me, I can predict

Re: Carrier Class Gateway

2001-04-26 Thread Peter Deutsch
-- -- Peter Deutsch work email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Director of Engineering Edge Delivery Products Content Networking Business Unit private: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cisco Systems There are only three types of mathematician - those who can count and those who can't. --

Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as reference material

2000-09-30 Thread Peter Deutsch in Mountain View
occasionally poke around in there myself. cheers, Greg Part 1.2 Type: application/pgp-signature -- -------- Peter Deutsch work email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical L

Re: draft-ietf-nat-protocol-complications-02.txt

2000-07-20 Thread Peter Deutsch in Mountain View
s to blame if and when the users pass us by... - peterd (feeling testy this evening) -- -------- Peter Deutsch work email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Engineerng Manager Cachin

Re: prohibiting RFC publication

2000-04-10 Thread Peter Deutsch in Mountain View
g'day, Tripp Lilley wrote: On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Peter Deutsch in Mountain View wrote: readily accessible. I still see value in having documents come out as "Request For Comments" in the traditional sense, but it certainly wouldn't hurt to find ways to better distingui

Re: prohibiting RFC publication

2000-04-09 Thread Peter Deutsch in Mountain View
-- -- Peter Deutsch work email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Leader Content Services Business Unit private: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cisco Systems or : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alcohol and calculus don't mix. Never drink and derive. --

Re: recommendation against publication of draft-cerpa-necp-0

2000-04-08 Thread Peter Deutsch in Mountain View
Hi Patrik, Patrik Fältström wrote: At 17.29 -0700 2000-04-07, Peter Deutsch wrote: LD is intended to sit in front of a cluster of cache engines containing similar data, performing automatic distribution of incoming requests among the multiple caches. It does this by intercepting

Re: recommendation against publication of draft-cerpa-necp-02.txt

2000-04-08 Thread Peter Deutsch in Mountain View
g'day, Keith Moore wrote: Peter, I think that by now I've made my points and defended them adequately and that there is little more to be acheived by continuing a public, and largely personal, point-by-point argument. If you want to continue this in private mail I'll consider it. Okay,

Re: recommendation against publication of draft-cerpa-necp-02.txt

2000-04-08 Thread Peter Deutsch in Mountain View
Keith Moore wrote: The industry and their customers have already decided against you on this one. Industry people love to make such claims. They're just marketing BS. The Internet isn't in final form yet and I don't expect it to stabilize for at least another decade. There's still

Re: recommendation against publication of draft-cerpa-necp-02.txt

2000-04-08 Thread Peter Deutsch in Mountain View
at, that'll cut down on the marketing BS".. I happen to say "Houston, we have a problem here..." - peterd ---------- Peter Deutsch

Re: prohibiting RFC publication

2000-04-08 Thread Peter Deutsch
ords of RFC 22026 and 1718 deleted that you take the appropriate steps to initiate the change, but I suggest that meanwhile you shouldn't be denying the documented evidence for such a role within the IETF. - peterd -- -------

Re: recommendation against publication of draft-cerpa-necp-02.txt

2000-04-07 Thread Peter Deutsch
- peterd -- ------ Peter Deutsch work email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Leader Content Services Business Unit private: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cisco Systems

Re: recommendation against publication of draft-cerpa-necp-0

2000-04-07 Thread Peter Deutsch
t is a moral or legal use of that technology (when the individual doesn't justify this through any particular creditials in either morality or the law) strikes me as somewhat naive, to say the least... - peterd -- ------

Re: recommendation against publication of draft-cerpa-necp-02.txt

2000-04-07 Thread Peter Deutsch
e who would protect us from ourselves. Shame on you... - peterd -- -- Peter Deutsch work email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Leader Content Services Business Unit private: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cisco Systems or : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alcohol and calculus don't mix. Never drink and derive. --

Re: Switches on Oz power outlets

2000-03-06 Thread Peter Deutsch
Ross Finlayson wrote: At 01:59 PM 3/6/00 -0800, Cameron Young wrote: Most of the wall power outlets have little rocker switches built into the outlet cover that also needs to be turned on. *Don't* forget to check this if you are charging a cell phone / laptop for use the next day.

Re: To address or NAT to address?

1999-12-02 Thread Peter Deutsch
g'day, David R. Conrad wrote: Charlie, DNS is supposed to be a way to resolve domain names into IP addresses. As a hammer is supposed to be a way to pound nails. However, when it is perceived that all you have is a hammer, it is amazing what begins to look like nails. Actually, I