Re: facilitators at i...@ietf.org

2014-09-24 Thread Randall Gellens
people. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time to reform. --Mark Twain

Re: Berlin was awesome, let's come again

2013-08-03 Thread Randall Gellens
small number of hotels around the world where they do wash in-room items in the restaurant dishwasher. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Make it idiot proof and someone will make

Re: Martians

2013-03-15 Thread Randall Gellens
At 2:45 PM -0400 3/12/13, John C Klensin wrote: I've gotten some feedback that some people thought I was identifying them as Martians and were offended. Wow, that is actually pretty funny. Sorry. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only

Re: side meetings and BarBOFs.

2013-03-15 Thread Randall Gellens
is going on. Of course it also makes the scheduling conflict even more apparent. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Where you stand depends on where you sit

RE: Diversity of IETF Leadership

2013-03-13 Thread Randall Gellens
At 1:54 PM + 3/12/13, Adrian Farrel wrote: increasing diversity on the IESG by appointing a few rocks and a mollusc OK, that is funny. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- [Y]ou

Re: Diversity of IETF Leadership

2013-03-12 Thread Randall Gellens
tears makes others uncomfortable or is it seen as an inability to be tough when needed? It doesn't make sense to me. Especially because we've had ADs who screamed, yelled, threw things in WG meetings. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only

Re: Diversity of IETF Leadership

2013-03-12 Thread Randall Gellens
. Let's not fall into a rat-hole of narrow considerations of diversity. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- [C]reativity [requires] the discomfort of confusion, uncertainty, anxiety

Re: Diversity of IETF Leadership

2013-03-12 Thread Randall Gellens
if some training along these lines might be good for WG chairs and ADs? -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Not far from here, by a white sun, behind a green star, lived the Steelypips

RE: [MMUSIC] Update on Orlando time for human language draft discussion

2013-03-11 Thread Randall Gellens
Sent: 10 March 2013 15:07 To: Randall Gellens Cc: Ari Keranen; ietf@ietf.org; Alexey Melnikov; Gunnar Hellstrom; DRAGE, Keith (Keith); Peter Saint-Andre; ietf-languages-boun...@alvestrand.no; Flemming Andreasen; Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo) Tschofenig; Peter Saint-Andre; Brian Rosen; mmu...@ietf.org

Re: [MMUSIC] Update on Orlando time for human language draft discussion

2013-03-11 Thread Randall Gellens
At 8:29 PM +0100 3/10/13, Harald Alvestrand wrote: On 03/10/2013 09:08 PM, Randall Gellens wrote: At 6:16 PM + 3/10/13, Keith (Keith) DRAGE wrote: My understanding was that the idea was to label a particular media stream, rather than (for example) a SIP body. Different media

Re: Diversity of IETF Leadership

2013-03-11 Thread Randall Gellens
as a whole, that helps, and if we remove barriers to serving on I* that helps as well. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Democracy is a government where you can say what you think even if you

Re: Diversity of IETF Leadership

2013-03-11 Thread Randall Gellens
. We can then try implementing some and remeasuring to see if they helped. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women

Re: Diversity of IETF Leadership

2013-03-11 Thread Randall Gellens
*. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- DEFINITION: Computer -- A device designed to speed and automate errors.

Re: Orlando time for human language draft discussion

2013-03-10 Thread Randall Gellens
: Confirmed? Venue? On Mar 9, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: I replied, sorry about the delay. It looks like Thursday lunch would work well. On 3/5/13 4:47 AM, Randall Gellens wrote: Hi all, I created a Doodle poll to see if we can find a time in Orlando

Re: Update on Orlando time for human language draft discussion

2013-03-10 Thread Randall Gellens
like Thursday lunch (11:30-1:00) works well for everyone who has responded so far. Let's plan on that for now. At 9:35 AM -0700 3/9/13, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: It looks like Thursday lunch would work well. On 3/5/13 4:47 AM, Randall Gellens wrote: Hi all, I created a Doodle poll

Re: Diversity of IETF Leadership

2013-03-10 Thread Randall Gellens
Yu Lixia Zhang -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- If dogs could talk, it would take a lot of the fun out of owning them. --Andrew

Re: Diversity of IETF Leadership

2013-03-10 Thread Randall Gellens
diversity in the I*. Increasing the pool (both in general and among those now under-represented) is one way that has been suggested. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Any sufficiently

Update on Orlando time for human language draft discussion

2013-03-09 Thread Randall Gellens
Hi everyone, It looks like Thursday lunch (11:30-1:00) works well for everyone who has responded so far. Let's plan on that for now. At 9:35 AM -0700 3/9/13, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: It looks like Thursday lunch would work well. On 3/5/13 4:47 AM, Randall Gellens wrote: Hi all, I

Re: Orlando time for human language draft discussion

2013-03-05 Thread Randall Gellens
://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gellens-negotiating-human-language-02.txt -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Ignorance is nothing more than indifference to what is before us; we have only

Re: draft-gellens-negotiating-human-language-01

2013-02-23 Thread Randall Gellens
language tags, and may benefit the SDP negotiation process described in the draft. -- Doug Ewell | Thornton, CO, USA http://ewellic.org | @DougEwell °© -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Two things

RE: draft-gellens-negotiating-human-language-01

2013-02-23 Thread Randall Gellens
leaving off the reference to the Registry and just say the tag must conform to 5646 (or BCP 47). That will imply the use of the Registry. How about: The 'humintlang' attribute value MUST be a language tag per RFC 5646? From: Randall Gellens Sent: 2/23/2013 1:18 To: Doug Ewell; ietf@ietf.org

RE: A mailing list protocol

2012-12-09 Thread Randall Gellens
At 5:19 PM -0500 12/4/12, Wes George wrote: Is there an IETF standard format for handling inline quote replies? Yes, RFC 3676. Is it just not implemented in certain mail clients? Sadly, yes. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only

Re: A mailing list protocol

2012-12-09 Thread Randall Gellens
, but to me, threading is the ability to group together messages in a logical thread or discussion, while in-thread navigation would be the ability to jump around within a thread). -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly

Re: A mailing list protocol

2012-12-09 Thread Randall Gellens
currently following what we desire will start doing so once the RFC or wiki page is published. I'd be delighted to be wrong, of course. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Surströmmingspremier

Re: PowerPoint considered harmful (was Re: Barely literate minutes)

2012-12-02 Thread Randall Gellens
and PowerPoint-like decks, leave traces that can easily be incorporated into minutes I like it this suggestion. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- People must not attempt to impose their own 'truth

Re: PowerPoint considered harmful (was Re: Barely literate minutes)

2012-12-01 Thread Randall Gellens
discussion. The editor or anyone wanting to discuss an issue would write out the topics on a transparent sheet of plastic and project it. As the discussion developed, points would be written on it. It seemed to work. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak

Re: PowerPoint considered harmful (was Re: Barely literate minutes)

2012-12-01 Thread Randall Gellens
; Powerpoint corrupts absolutely. -- Vint Cerf I love that quote of Vint's; it's been in my random sig tag file for *years* -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- A gaffe occurs not when

Re: Format=flowed quoting (was Re: IETF...the unconference of SDOs)

2012-10-22 Thread Randall Gellens
At 11:42 AM +0100 10/19/12, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: Warning: this message was generated by Apple Mail. But not using Format=Flowed. On 16 Oct 2012, at 03:46, Randall Gellens ra...@qti.qualcomm.com wrote: At 9:12 AM -0400 9/5/12, Michael Richardson {quigon} wrote: Maybe I'm also

Format=flowed quoting (was Re: IETF...the unconference of SDOs)

2012-10-16 Thread Randall Gellens
does not support format=flowed at all. My understanding is that it insists on HTML quoting, which is entirely different. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Once a job is fouled up

Anyone need a room at the Hyatt?

2012-07-25 Thread Randall Gellens
I may have a room at the Hyatt at CAD 194 (includes breakfast) for the full IETF week. If anyone wants it, please let me know right away. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-appsawg-xdash-03.txt (Deprecating Use of the X- Prefix in Application Protocols) to Best Current Practice

2012-03-06 Thread Randall Gellens
method on implementors where the method is not required for interoperability. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Language is a virus from outer space. --William S. Burroughs

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-appsawg-xdash-03.txt (Deprecating Use of the X- Prefix in Application Protocols) to Best Current Practice

2012-03-06 Thread Randall Gellens
At 4:32 PM -0700 3/6/12, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 3/6/12 4:19 PM, Randall Gellens wrote: At 3:30 PM -0700 3/6/12, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: In my working copy I've changed that paragraph to: Implementations of application protocols MUST NOT programatically discriminate

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-appsawg-xdash-03.txt

2012-03-06 Thread Randall Gellens
Hi Peter, At 4:42 PM -0700 3/6/12, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 3/2/12 5:48 PM, Randall Gellens wrote: Hi all, Hi Randall, thank you for the review and suggested text. Three suggestions for edits: First: I suggest adding a brief note to this text in Appendix B: 2. When

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-appsawg-xdash-03.txt (Deprecating Use of the X- Prefix in Application Protocols) to Best Current Practice

2012-03-06 Thread Randall Gellens
the method is not required for interoperability. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- He knows nothing, and he thinks he knows everything. That points clearly to a political career

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-appsawg-xdash-03.txt (Deprecating Use of the X- Prefix in Application Protocols) to Best Current Practice

2012-03-06 Thread Randall Gellens
At 1:02 PM +1100 3/7/12, Mark Nottingham wrote: On 07/03/2012, at 10:32 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: On 3/6/12 4:19 PM, Randall Gellens wrote: At 3:30 PM -0700 3/6/12, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: In my working copy I've changed that paragraph to: Implementations of application

RE: Last Call: draft-ietf-appsawg-xdash-03.txt (Deprecating Use of the X- Prefix in Application Protocols) to Best Current Practice

2012-03-06 Thread Randall Gellens
, instead of 'x-priority' and 'priority'. But the fact is that names which start out as non-standard hacks end up being de facto standards. That's no better. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-appsawg-xdash-03.txt

2012-03-02 Thread Randall Gellens
facto standard) and so it inevitably becomes meaningless. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked

Le Meridien Etoile for $149 ( ¤115 ) per night.

2012-01-28 Thread Randall Gellens
/international/-149-Paris-Upgraded-Room-at-4-Star-Hotel-50-Off-1177644/ -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Our greatest fear is that the Internet will become a vehicle of free distribution

Re: voting system for future venues?

2011-08-25 Thread Randall Gellens
fares were only available for say 10 seats per day.) I think the small number of carriers and type of service (mostly commuter) had a large effect on Quebec. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag

Re: Hyatt Taipei cancellation policy?

2011-08-25 Thread Randall Gellens
. Minneapolis works well for IETFs. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- wabi (wah-BI; Japanese; noun): a flawed detail that creates an elegant whole

Re: IAOC, travel and hotel prices (was RE: Hyatt Taipei cancellation policy?)

2011-08-24 Thread Randall Gellens
problems dominate the complaints? -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- ...neither the whole of truth nor the whole of good is revealed to any single observer, although each observer gains

Re: voting system for future venues?

2011-08-24 Thread Randall Gellens
that many on this list feel the same way. I suspect (but don't have any actual knowledge) that Minneapolis or Vancouver would be a compromise that would has worked fairly well in the past. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only

Re: IAOC, travel and hotel prices (was RE: Hyatt Taipei cancellation policy?)

2011-08-24 Thread Randall Gellens
meeting by making it easier to bump into people. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Peace: In international affairs, a period of cheating between two periods of fighting

Re: Experiment for different schedule for Friday

2011-08-22 Thread Randall Gellens
be in the meeting rooms during Session II instead of centrally? -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- If you can't annoy somebody there's little point in writing --Kingsley Amis

Re: A modest proposal for Friday meeting schedule

2011-08-01 Thread Randall Gellens
WGs don't need 2.5 hours. Also, a few years back at the Paris IETF, if I recall correctly, we had a one hour morning slot followed by a two-hour slot, then a later-than-usual lunch break. Personally, I think that worked pretty well. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts

Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages

2011-07-14 Thread Randall Gellens
At 6:19 PM -0400 7/13/11, John C Klensin wrote: Content-type: text/noise; noise-type=bogus-legal-disclaimer, charset=... Ooh, I like this proposal. We can also have noise-types for exhortations to not print the email. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect

LAST CALL: Room at the Hilton for CAD$229/night

2011-07-12 Thread Randall Gellens
Last call before I cancel this. If you would like a room at the Hilton for CAD$229/night please let me know. I seem to have a spare. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Every word

Re: Confidentiality notices on email messages

2011-07-12 Thread Randall Gellens
wondered if these notices were set up by someone who is a lawyer and does understand the situation, or if they were set up by someone who saw others do it, or heard that this sort of thing was needed. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only

Anyone need a room at the Hilton?

2011-06-27 Thread Randall Gellens
Would anyone like a room at the Hilton for CAD$229/night? I seem to have a spare. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- The early bird catches the worm, but what does the early worm get

Re: Getting to Quebec City

2011-06-20 Thread Randall Gellens
to Quebec City, but the only schedule that was reasonable for me involved an overnight in Montreal. I am planning to take the train from Quebec City to Montreal on Friday, and fly home from Montreal on Saturday. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only

Re: Has anyone found a hotel for Quebec City that isn't exorbitant?

2011-06-20 Thread Randall Gellens
suitability, cost, etc. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Learn from your parents' mistake -- use birth control. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

Re: whine, whine, whine

2011-06-20 Thread Randall Gellens
flight on one airline.) -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- 2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

Re: [79all] IETF Badge

2010-11-11 Thread Randall Gellens
or not. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Everyone knows that dragons don't exist. But while this simplistic formulation may satisfy the layman, it does not suffice for the scientific mind. The School

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-22 Thread Randall Gellens
At 7:23 AM +0200 9/8/10, Mans Nilsson wrote: Subject: Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474 Date: Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 09:52:08PM -0700 Quoting Randall Gellens (rg+i...@qualcomm.com): What is at the other end of the fiber (either STOKAB or individual home owners

Re: All these discussions about meeting venues

2010-09-22 Thread Randall Gellens
work quite well, and some pose great difficulties for a minority, we should ignore this (presumably because of the charm of the difficult ones). -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Q: Why

Re: All these discussions about meeting venues

2010-09-22 Thread Randall Gellens
. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- I employ no person who smokes. --- Thomas Edison [Handwritten note by Edison to Henry Ford, April 26, 1914

Re: All these discussions about meeting venues

2010-09-22 Thread Randall Gellens
At 4:40 PM -0700 9/13/10, Dave CROCKER wrote: The other thing that is irritating is the tendency to dismiss or attack serious efforts to make serious comments. Yes, indeed. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly

Re: All these discussions about meeting venues

2010-09-22 Thread Randall Gellens
to be in Minneapolis at the moment (a different group is meeting here), and am reminded of how convenient the venue is. Plus, it's very nice to be here when it isn't cold :-) -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-07 Thread Randall Gellens
and individual home owners dig down their own fiber. What is at the other end of the fiber (either STOKAB or individual home owners)? Is there a central interconnect point where any ISP can connect? -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-03 Thread Randall Gellens
facility from Internet service. The idea being that a regulated or even municipal entity builds and maintains the outside plant, with any Internet provider able to use it to offer service. That way all details of the service are open to competition. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal

RE: Optimizing for what? Was Re: IETF Attendance by continent

2010-08-31 Thread Randall Gellens
), and the general difficulty of being disagreeable in such an environment. Many of the conference facilities are open-air, with roofs and protection from rain but still providing ample fresh air and natural light. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself

Re: Meeting Venue Preference Survey

2010-08-30 Thread Randall Gellens
stupid. I don't know how to categorize Maastricht vs Minneapolis except to say that air connectivity is better to Minneapolis and the meeting venue has more of what I'm looking for in an IETF setup - and I can't see any way to indicate that on your survey. Yes. -- Randall Gellens Opinions

Re: Meeting Venue Preference Survey

2010-08-30 Thread Randall Gellens
well for the core purpose. I think your explanation makes sense: some people go for only a few WGs and hence have lots of time to be a tourist. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag

Re: Tourist or business visa from US?

2010-08-30 Thread Randall Gellens
). -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- There are advantages to having a sane person run a government. --Character in TV series Wiseguy

Re: [78attendees] WARNING !!! Re: Maastricht to Brussels-Nat-Aero, Sat 07:09

2010-08-30 Thread Randall Gellens
additionally had less good facilities. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- I have made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter

Re: Meeting Venue Preference Survey

2010-08-30 Thread Randall Gellens
of anyone who said Maastricht as a city was ugly or smelled bad or had rude people. There are a lot of truly delightful cities that would be great places to visit but are not good choices for an IETF. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only

Re: Meeting Venue Preference Survey

2010-08-30 Thread Randall Gellens
be scattered around? (I would personally want to know what the rules are for smoking, but I understand only a few other participants would care.) -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Nice

Re: All these discussions about meeting venues

2010-08-30 Thread Randall Gellens
to develop some language like his that garners meaningful consensus in terms of convenience, /total/ cost, functionality, reliability, and other core criteria. Convenience covers travel, lodging, food, and other resources local to the venue. An excellent suggestion. -- Randall Gellens

Re: IETF Attendance by continent

2010-08-30 Thread Randall Gellens
and I haven't been following. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- American Non Sequitur Society -- We don't make sense, But we do like pizza

Re: All these discussions about meeting venues

2010-08-30 Thread Randall Gellens
difficulties could manage. I realize these stations were in Belgium, not the Netherlands, so perhaps this explains it. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Invention is the mother of necessity

RE: Dedicated list for technical discussions

2010-08-30 Thread Randall Gellens
(although I can't recall which area). But I'm not sure we need a new area. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- If you attack stupidity you attack an entrenched interest with friends

Re: Optimizing for what? Was Re: IETF Attendance by continent

2010-08-30 Thread Randall Gellens
don't say why this island. We can even rotate islands if people get bored. Well, there are extensive conference facilities on Oahu, the Big Island, Maui, and Kauai. I have no information as to if they would work for a group of our size and with our need for breakout rooms. -- Randall

Re: [78attendees] WARNING !!! Re: Maastricht to Brussels-Nat-Aero, Sat 07:09

2010-08-29 Thread Randall Gellens
the site, or even anywhere in Beijing? I don't care about beer, but breathing would be nice. Being able to join people for meals might be nice, too, but I guess that will have to wait for a venue that isn't China or Prague. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak

Re: Tourist or business visa from US?

2010-08-29 Thread Randall Gellens
). -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- #Random Tag -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag

Re: Meeting Venue Preference Survey

2010-08-29 Thread Randall Gellens
that don't work well for the core purpose. I think your explanation makes sense: some people go for only a few WGs and hence have lots of time to be a tourist. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag

Re: Meeting Venue Preference Survey

2010-08-29 Thread Randall Gellens
stupid. I don't know how to categorize Maastricht vs Minneapolis except to say that air connectivity is better to Minneapolis and the meeting venue has more of what I'm looking for in an IETF setup - and I can't see any way to indicate that on your survey. Yes. -- Randall Gellens Opinions

Re: All these discussions about meeting venues

2010-08-29 Thread Randall Gellens
in some replies that if anyone had a poor experience with Maastricht it is their own fault for being a dolt.) -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- I personally think we developed language

Re: All these discussions about meeting venues

2010-08-29 Thread Randall Gellens
have thought this to be obvious, but from the comments in Maastricht and here, it's not. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- For best results, be sure to double clutch when you paradigm

Re: All these discussions about meeting venues

2010-08-29 Thread Randall Gellens
is. I apologize for allowing this impression to color my idea of the actual site selection process. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- An algorithm must be seen to be believed

RE: [78attendees] WARNING !!! Re: Maastricht to Brussels-Nat-Aero, Sat 07:09

2010-08-29 Thread Randall Gellens
to swing my fist ends where the other man's nose begins. I really cannot figure out what what you are saying about the Chinese. I am not aware of them controlling smoking in public, so I assume you're talking about something else, but what? Can you please clarify? -- Randall Gellens Opinions

Re: All these discussions about meeting venues

2010-08-28 Thread Randall Gellens
friends than it is when the hotels are all close to the venue and there are fewer choices. Absolutely. A city can be wonderful and charming (and excellent for personal travel) but also a poor choice for an IETF. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-mailinglist (Mailing Lists and Internationalized Email Addresses) to Experimental RFC

2010-06-28 Thread Randall Gellens
5504 and RFC 5336 should be normative references. Regards, -sm -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- I make a fortune from criticizing the policy of the government, and then hand it over

Re: Request for community guidance on issue concerning a future meeting of the IETF

2009-09-21 Thread Randall Gellens
the smoking policy in China now? And I agree with you about Japan, although that in the last few years I've been able to find 100% non-smoking restaurants (it takes some work). -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly

Re: Request for community guidance on issue concerning a future meeting of the IETF

2009-09-21 Thread Randall Gellens
don't like the idea that we're violating the law and hotel policy, even if we are getting away with it. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- !sgub evah t'nseod CP sihT ?sgub naem ayaddahW

RE: Request for community guidance on issue concerning afuture meeting of the IETF

2009-09-21 Thread Randall Gellens
. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly selected tag: --- Any idiot can face a crisis, it's this day to day living that wears you out. --Anton Chekov

Re: Request for community guidance on issue concerning a future meeting of the IETF

2009-09-20 Thread Randall Gellens
experience with China is that it is among the worst places to try and avoid tobacco smoke. (3) Similarly to (2), my experience in Bejing has been that the air is exceptionally polluted. Hence, I'd be concerned for those IETF members who would find this makes participation difficult. -- Randall

Anyone need a hotel room for Minneapolis?

2008-11-12 Thread Randall Gellens
I seem to have an extra room at the IETF rate. Anyone want it? If so, let me right away. Otherwise I'll cancel it. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly-selected tag: --- If you attack stupidity you

Re: Should I* opinions be afforded a special status? (Re: [saag] Declining the ifare bof for Chicago)

2007-06-25 Thread Randall Gellens
with experience. That makes it easier to determine if someone is abusing discretion. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly-selected tag: --- The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them

Re: Non-priority baggage handling (Re: Warning - risk of duty free ...)

2007-03-17 Thread Randall Gellens
valuable in checked luggage. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly-selected tag: --- [Television is] chewing gum for the eyes. --attribributed to Fred Allen via Frank Lloyd Wright

Re: Non-priority baggage handling (Re: Warning - risk of duty free ...)

2007-03-17 Thread Randall Gellens
for the guy to put the bags on the belt. There are often multiple trucks, even if they are all linked together and pulled by one tractor. There may or may not be more than one linked chain. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only

Re: Non-priority baggage handling (Re: Warning - risk of duty free ...)

2007-03-17 Thread Randall Gellens
. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly-selected tag: --- An algorithm must be seen to be believed. -- Donald Knuth ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1

Non-Smoking in Prague

2007-03-12 Thread Randall Gellens
/index.php?stranka=nekuracke_restauracehledat=anozarizeni_nazev=zarizeni_adresa=praha http://www.dokurte.cz/index.php?lang=en Also, this blog (No Smoking in Prague? Yeah, right) is interesting: http://www.prague-spot.com/blog/article/192/no-smoking-in-prague-yeah-right -- Randall Gellens Opinions

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework -- editor's notes

2007-01-17 Thread Randall Gellens
At 9:45 AM -0500 1/17/07, John C Klensin wrote: --On Tuesday, 16 January, 2007 18:44 -0800 Randall Gellens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (1) This version still has some editor's notes. Are these intended for publication? No. I had intended to change the xml2rfc parameters to shut them

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 Thread Randall Gellens
that an email sender or recipient is an i18mail user. with: Note that under this definition, it is not possible to tell from an ASCII address if an email sender or recipient is an i18mail user or not. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 Thread Randall Gellens
this is a quality-of-implementation thing: it should be suggested by the documents but certainly not required for compliance. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly-selected tag: --- Arguments are to be avoided

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 Thread Randall Gellens
At 3:59 PM -0500 1/17/07, John C Klensin wrote: --On Wednesday, 17 January, 2007 12:12 -0800 Randall Gellens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the second-to-last sentence refer to an ASCII address, or any address? The wording implies any address, but if an address is non-ASCII, surely

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 Thread Randall Gellens
that the lack of UTF8SMTP is a transient failure; since this ultimately resolves to success or failure, it doesn't change the discussion here.) --- -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly-selected tag

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 Thread Randall Gellens
strenuously, I'll make the substitution. Sounds good to me. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly-selected tag: --- Newton's Fourth Law: Every action has an equal and opposite satisfaction

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-lemonade-deployments (Deployment Considerations for lemonade-compliant Mobile Email) to BCP

2007-01-17 Thread Randall Gellens
called perimeter networks) can protect the rest of the network? FWIW, I like that I-D. Thanks. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly-selected tag: --- Squad Helps Dog Bite Victim --Newspaper headline

Re: [EAI] Last Call: draft-ietf-eai-framework (Overview and Framework for Internationalized Email) to Informational RFC

2007-01-17 Thread Randall Gellens
of that address is an i18mail user.) This incorporates John's change (a belief) as well as your desire to tighten the link between the address and the owner. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal;facts are suspect;I speak for myself only -- Randomly-selected tag

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