Re: wireless services

2000-07-07 Thread James P. Salsman

Aditya,

Thank you for your Internet message:

... why are you segregating these voice features with web/email/WAP?

I do not understand that question.  My problem stems from the use of 
the verb "segregating" modified by "with" -- those two do not work 
well together.

... using WAP, we can easily incorporate these features in today's 
 cellular phone

Great.  Please explain how to use WAP for asynchronous audio messaging. 
I had not been told that the WAP forum had incorporated that yet.  I 
predicted it would take them at least three months longer.  In terms 
of open standards, Dave Raggett designed INPUT TYPE=AUDIO in HTML+ 
forms in 1993.  I wonder what the WML form bytecodes for that are, or 
if they have even been designed within the confines of the WML forum.

... in WAP we have some thing called the WTAI ( Wireless Telephony 
 Application Interface ) that provides services like auto call back,
 voice mail etc to mobile handset via concept of WTA Server.

Where is WTAI documented?

If WTAI is proprietary, closed, and obscure, as it has been, it will 
have limited market share when compared to open, free, and 
well-documented standards.  Good asynch voice in a portable is just 
as good as quality email on the desktop, and the quality of voice 
browsers will get up there, too.  Likewise, IP will stay as popular 
for its API as it already is, and packet switches with popular 
routing protocols will become typical options for cellular switch 
installations.  Those APIs that allow programs to perform operations 
unpopular with the hardware owners will tend to be discouraged.

Similarly, until voicemail replies are as easy as email replies, the 
full benefits of asyncrhonous voice messaging are unlikely to be 
realized.  I feel it is very likely that the more open a standard is, 
the easier it is to reply to a message sent using that standard.

Many of us have a duty to work towards these optimum conditions.  
There are plenty of ways to make incremental improvements in the 
right direction.  The solutions that appear to have the strongest 
monitary potential in the short term are not as worthwhile as 
those that clearly do have greater strength in the long term.

Cheers,
James
-- 
http://www.bovik.org.




Re: wireless services

2000-07-06 Thread Aditya Mohan

Hi James

You are certainly correct to some extent . These type of features ARE useful . I
myself would like to use them. But why are you segregating these voice features
with web/email/WAP?? To be more specific using WAP, we can easily incorporate
these features in today's cellular phone. Rember , in WAP we have some thing
called the WTAI ( Wireless Telephony Application Interface ) that provides
services like auto call back, voice mail etc to mobile handset via concept of
WTA Server.

Internet has the power to be available to us any time anywhere , and we should
use this facility as effectively as possible either via wireline links  or
Wireless


cheers
Aditya



"James P. Salsman" wrote:

 Where, and by whom, is wireless service with the following features offered?

 1.  An option for incoming telephone calls to go directly to voicemail,
 transmitting spoken messages asynchronously to a buffer inside the telephone
 transceiver, using a reliable transport of high quality audio.  Messages
 could thereby be played back in regions without good RF conditions, and
 replayed any number of times without incurring additional airtime charges.

 2.  A means to send voice messages to email destinations with an Internet
 message containing a URL pointing to a web server with a choice of audio
 formats from which the message would be played back.  Again, it would be
 preferable if such messages were buffered on the telephone transceiver,
 sent reliably, asynchronously, and using high quality audio, because RF
 congestion could cease to be a significant problem if circuit-switched
 telephone connections were replaced with the flexibility of packet TDMA.

 3.  A means to send similarly asynchronous messages to telephone
 destinations with an automated outbound call announcing the message sent
 and offering to play the message upon a touch-tone response, or announcing
 the telephone and access numbers with which the message can be retrieved
 (in case the announcement ends up in the recipient's voicemail.)

 4.  A means to send instructions for retrieving such messages using
 numeric page or SMS messages for other wireless destinations.

 5.  A means for recipients of messages as described in 2-4 above to reply
 with spoken or numeric or short text messages.  The identity of the message
 being replied to should be clear from the characteristics of the reply.

 6.  A serial port on the telephone transceiver providing a PPP link to a
 laptop, palmtop, desktop, or server with severed net connection, etc.

 Any one of those features would provide far more value to me and most of
 the people I know than WAP.

 Who was/will be first to market with them?

 Asynchronous voice messaging is very useful when replies are easy --
 which is not the case with most voicemail systems in use today.
 Effective asynchronous voice messaging will be a more important
 application than either web or email service on wireless platforms
 because the portable nature of wireless devices is simply antithetical
 to bulky keyboards and large displays.

 Cheers,
 James




wireless services

2000-07-06 Thread James P. Salsman


Where, and by whom, is wireless service with the following features offered?

1.  An option for incoming telephone calls to go directly to voicemail, 
transmitting spoken messages asynchronously to a buffer inside the telephone 
transceiver, using a reliable transport of high quality audio.  Messages 
could thereby be played back in regions without good RF conditions, and 
replayed any number of times without incurring additional airtime charges.

2.  A means to send voice messages to email destinations with an Internet 
message containing a URL pointing to a web server with a choice of audio 
formats from which the message would be played back.  Again, it would be 
preferable if such messages were buffered on the telephone transceiver, 
sent reliably, asynchronously, and using high quality audio, because RF 
congestion could cease to be a significant problem if circuit-switched 
telephone connections were replaced with the flexibility of packet TDMA.
 
3.  A means to send similarly asynchronous messages to telephone 
destinations with an automated outbound call announcing the message sent 
and offering to play the message upon a touch-tone response, or announcing 
the telephone and access numbers with which the message can be retrieved 
(in case the announcement ends up in the recipient's voicemail.)

4.  A means to send instructions for retrieving such messages using 
numeric page or SMS messages for other wireless destinations. 

5.  A means for recipients of messages as described in 2-4 above to reply 
with spoken or numeric or short text messages.  The identity of the message 
being replied to should be clear from the characteristics of the reply.

6.  A serial port on the telephone transceiver providing a PPP link to a 
laptop, palmtop, desktop, or server with severed net connection, etc.

Any one of those features would provide far more value to me and most of 
the people I know than WAP.

Who was/will be first to market with them?

Asynchronous voice messaging is very useful when replies are easy -- 
which is not the case with most voicemail systems in use today.  
Effective asynchronous voice messaging will be a more important 
application than either web or email service on wireless platforms 
because the portable nature of wireless devices is simply antithetical 
to bulky keyboards and large displays.

Cheers,
James