Re: Eating our own dog food and using SIP for telephony... (was Re: My view of the IAOC Meeting Selection Guidelines)

2008-02-17 Thread Cullen Jennings
There are free conference bridges that only use the PSTN - they make money by reverse termination charges (for example /www.freeconference.com ). There are very expensive conference bridges that do cool tricks SS7 technology. There are free confernce bridges that use SIP/H.323/IAX/ Skype

Re: Eating our own dog food and using SIP for telephony... (was Re: My view of the IAOC Meeting Selection Guidelines)

2008-02-12 Thread Morgan Sackett
On Feb 11, 2008, at 10:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. How many folks out there have phones (hard or soft) from which they can place calls to other random SIP endpoints? (I do, but also realize I'm in a minority.) Probably enough of us. I agree that SIP conferencing doesn't work

Re: Eating our own dog food and using SIP for telephony... (was Re: My view of the IAOC Meeting Selection Guidelines)

2008-02-11 Thread Jeroen Massar
Dan York wrote: [..] P.S. How many folks out there have phones (hard or soft) from which they can place calls to other random SIP endpoints? (I do, but also realize I'm in a minority.) I know quite a number of people who have and are actively using SIP phones. I personally am a great fan of

Re: Eating our own dog food and using SIP for telephony... (was Re: My view of the IAOC Meeting Selection Guidelines)

2008-02-11 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 11 feb 2008, at 17:55, Dan York wrote: P.S. How many folks out there have phones (hard or soft) from which they can place calls to other random SIP endpoints? (I do, but also realize I'm in a minority.) Unfortunately, SIP providers on average only seem interested in providing last

Re: Eating our own dog food and using SIP for telephony... (was Re: My view of the IAOC Meeting Selection Guidelines)

2008-02-11 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:21:48 +0200 Lars Eggert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-2-11, at 18:55, ext Dan York wrote: Can we move some of this conversation in the bill below onto the Internet using systems where our costs essentially go to $0? (Obviously we still need to communicate to

Re: Eating our own dog food and using SIP for telephony... (was Re: My view of the IAOC Meeting Selection Guidelines)

2008-02-11 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2008-2-11, at 18:55, ext Dan York wrote: Can we move some of this conversation in the bill below onto the Internet using systems where our costs essentially go to $0? (Obviously we still need to communicate to non-wired folks across the PSTN, such as event location facilities, etc.)

Eating our own dog food and using SIP for telephony... (was Re: My view of the IAOC Meeting Selection Guidelines)

2008-02-11 Thread Dan York
I'm with Richard on this one. I have to think that among the many companies that make up the IETF there exists a couple with conferencing bridges that can support SIP endpoints! ;-) Can we move some of this conversation in the bill below onto the Internet using systems where our costs

Re: Eating our own dog food and using SIP for telephony... (was Re: My view of the IAOC Meeting Selection Guidelines)

2008-02-11 Thread johnl
P.S. How many folks out there have phones (hard or soft) from which they can place calls to other random SIP endpoints? (I do, but also realize I'm in a minority.) Probably enough of us. I agree that SIP conferencing doesn't work perfectly, but POTS conferencing, even rather high priced