Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-17 Thread Susan Harris
You know how many times I go to conferences and end up just leaving the bag or whatever the gift is in the hotel room? Every single one. Though, I must say, the bag from Salt Lake City is the best one I've ever been given and still use that. So unless there is a really high quality bag

Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions fo r future ietf meetings

2004-08-12 Thread John Loughney
If we scheduled the March meeting in New Orleans or Rio, maybe things would get interesting! John Reply Header Subject:Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings Author: shogunx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09th

Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions fo r future ietf meetings

2004-08-12 Thread shogunx
suggestions for future ietf meetings Author: shogunx [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09th August 2004 5:21:34 PM On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, George Michaelson wrote: Personally, I find the requirement of wearing clothes tiresome, but then again, who REALLY wants to see all the IETF'ers naked

RE: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-12 Thread Tony Hain
Michael Richardson wrote: ... I recall Orlando had no convenient bar. Maybe you spent too much time there to recall ... ;) As the hosts of Orlando, Glen I can assure you the hotel bar was within stumbling distance (Ethernet cable limits) of both the meeting and guest rooms because one of

Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-11 Thread Hadmut Danisch
I, btw, just checked in at the Usenix Security Symposium and received a very nice, durable, and usable, but still not too expensive bag with a Usenix logo printed on. That's much better than any T-Shirt. regards Hadmut ___ Ietf mailing list

RE: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-11 Thread Desiree Miloshevic
I, btw, just checked in at the Usenix Security Symposium and received a very nice, durable, and usable, but still not too expensive bag with a Usenix logo printed on. I'd argue that bag is the best deal. It really depends on the quality. I get a bag at almost every single meeting I go to. OTOH,

Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-11 Thread Kevin C. Almeroth
I, btw, just checked in at the Usenix Security Symposium and received a very nice, durable, and usable, but still not too expensive bag with a Usenix logo printed on. That's much better than any T-Shirt. You know how many times I go to conferences and end up just leaving the bag or whatever the

RE: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-11 Thread Paul Hoffman / VPNC
Even mediumly-constructed canvas bags can be more useful than a t-shirt. I have no problem using my Networld '91 canvas bag to schlep groceries around. And canvas bags are great for lab equipment. Or beach gear. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium

Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-11 Thread Melinda Shore
On Wednesday, August 11, 2004, at 04:28 PM, Paul Hoffman / VPNC wrote: Even mediumly-constructed canvas bags can be more useful than a t-shirt. That varies by human. One thing that I would love to bits would be a t-shirt made out of coolmax or some other high-techie fabric, instead of cotton.

Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-11 Thread Ole Jacobsen
Problem is you get a bag at almost EVERY conference in this industry. I've started to (politely) refuse the bag in the last 5 years or so, accepting only any required contents such as the program. Years ago, when I worked for Interop, we over-ordered on the canvas bags one year and made a

RE: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-10 Thread Glen Zorn
,,, Frankly, as long as we can have BAR BOFs in the Hotel, the location of the food doesn't matter. Vienna suffered from having meeting space and hotel seperated, and unclear default BAR. Orlando had the same problem. Hmm. As I recall, the meeting space was in the hotel in Orlando.

Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-10 Thread Michael Richardson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Glen == Glen Zorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Frankly, as long as we can have BAR BOFs in the Hotel, the location of the food doesn't matter. Vienna suffered from having meeting space and hotel seperated, and unclear default BAR.

RE: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-10 Thread Daniel Senie
At 12:37 PM 8/10/2004, Glen Zorn wrote: ,,, Frankly, as long as we can have BAR BOFs in the Hotel, the location of the food doesn't matter. Vienna suffered from having meeting space and hotel seperated, and unclear default BAR. Orlando had the same problem. Hmm. As I recall, the meeting

RE: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-10 Thread shogunx
We have very nice facilities in Daytona. On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Daniel Senie wrote: At 12:37 PM 8/10/2004, Glen Zorn wrote: ,,, Frankly, as long as we can have BAR BOFs in the Hotel, the location of the food doesn't matter. Vienna suffered from having meeting space and hotel

Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-09 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Hadmut Danisch wrote: A cap like those LAPD caps? An FBI-like jacket? IETF-suspenders? Cool sunglasses? Outdoor-Shirts? Backpacks? Computer bags? Find a hotel with a laaarge swimming pool and give IETF swimsuits? Baywatch? Netwatch? IETF-Towels? Mugs, pins, belts? Translucent eye-controlled

Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-09 Thread Dave Aronson
Hadmut Danisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Backpacks? Computer bags? Pocket protectors. In leather. ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

RE: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-09 Thread Dr Harsh Verma
Collar/Tie pins would be good! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexandru Petrescu Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 3:31 AM To: Hadmut Danisch Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts,and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-09 Thread grenville armitage
Dr Harsh Verma wrote: Collar/Tie pins would be good! There are collars and ties at IETF meetings now? How the mighty has fallen. cheers, gja ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-09 Thread Ben Crosby
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So I guess we'll stick with T-shirts at 61. Also, Thanks for the people who told me (from the US largely) that there were never any big enough shirts left, and to those from Europe who told me that there were only ever big shirts left!!! Cheers! Ben.

Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-09 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
There are collars and ties at IETF meetings now? How the mighty has fallen. Huh? There have been (small numbers of) clued people wearing collars and ties at just about every IETF I've attended.. - Bill

Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-09 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Sommerfeld writ es: There are collars and ties at IETF meetings now? How the mighty has fallen. Huh? There have been (small numbers of) clued people wearing collars and ties at just about every IETF I've attended.. Bob Moskowitz was here this time, and

Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-09 Thread George Michaelson
Jon Crowcroft told us in UCL-CS back in '85 that the pre-IETF meetings were smoke filled rooms, including uniforms with medal-bars out to the elbows... -George ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: YATS? Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-09 Thread shogunx
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, George Michaelson wrote: Personally, I find the requirement of wearing clothes tiresome, but then again, who REALLY wants to see all the IETF'ers naked? Enjoy, Scott Jon Crowcroft told us in UCL-CS back in '85 that the pre-IETF meetings were smoke filled rooms,

Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-08 Thread John Loughney
Title: Converted from Rich Text By the way, the hotel has free IPv6 connectivity in every room, since we installed it in May 2003 (first one in the world as I know). (snip) PS: And yes, we of course plan to provide a nice t-shirt ! OK, I'm convinced. Lets go there as soon as

Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-06 Thread Jari Arkko
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: By the way, the hotel has free IPv6 connectivity in every room, since we installed it in May 2003 (first one in the world as I know). (snip) PS: And yes, we of course plan to provide a nice t-shirt ! OK, I'm convinced. Lets go there as soon as possible. --Jari

Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-06 Thread Tim Chown
On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 01:00:09AM -0400, Tony Hansen wrote: I know, this isn't the most important issue in the world. But, I want to say that I miss the IETF meeting T-shirts. As confirmed by Harald at tonight's plenary, the T-shirts are normally paid for by the sponsor. And since we don't

Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-06 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 6-aug-04, at 7:21, Hadmut Danisch wrote: Why always T-Shirts? Everyone gives T-Shirts. I have tons of T-Shirts from conventions and conferences. Why not anything different at every meeting? Socks, ties, caps, jumpers, blousons, jackets, sunglasses, swimsuits, undies... Actually I got some

RE: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-06 Thread Michel Py
Hadmut Danisch wrote: Why always T-Shirts? Everyone gives T-Shirts. I have tons of T-Shirts from conventions and conferences. Why not anything different at every meeting? Socks, ties, caps, jumpers, blousons, jackets, sunglasses, _ties_? Why not a designer suit while you're at it. Sandals.

Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-06 Thread Michael Richardson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- JORDI == JORDI PALET MARTINEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JORDI The only complain was not being in downtown. Also something JORDI about the restaurants nearby, but there are a few at walking JORDI distance, and the hotel has enough meeting rooms and

Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-06 Thread James M. Polk
At 01:00 AM 8/6/2004 -0400, Tony Hansen wrote: The first time in recent years that we almost didn't have a sponsor was in Adelaide (IETF 47, March 2000). So, what happened? In true IETF fashion, a bar BOF met, designed a T-shirt, and made arrangements with a T-shirt shop a couple of blocks from

Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-06 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
My response below, in-line. Regards, Jordi - Original Message - From: Michael Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 8:49 AM Subject: Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-06 Thread Ben Crosby
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony, Thanks for the suggestions. I'll try to address some of these with respect to the Alcatel hosted meeting in Washington DC. Tony Here's a suggestion for IETF 61: modify the registration web Tony page to let people specify the size of the

T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-05 Thread Tony Hansen
I know, this isn't the most important issue in the world. But, I want to say that I miss the IETF meeting T-shirts. As confirmed by Harald at tonight's plenary, the T-shirts are normally paid for by the sponsor. And since we don't have a sponsor here, there was no T-shirt. The first time in

Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-05 Thread Hadmut Danisch
On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 01:00:09AM -0400, Tony Hansen wrote: I know, this isn't the most important issue in the world. But, I want to say that I miss the IETF meeting T-shirts. As confirmed by Harald at tonight's plenary, the T-shirts are normally paid for by the sponsor. And since we don't

Re: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings

2004-08-05 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Subject: T-shirts, and some suggestions for future ietf meetings I know, this isn't the most important issue in the world. But, I want to say that I miss the IETF meeting T-shirts. As confirmed by Harald at tonight's plenary, the T-shirts are normally paid for by the sponsor. And since we don't

RE: Future IETF Meetings

2003-12-03 Thread Susan Harris
There is also an excellent steak house just the other side of the street, that's even skyway accessible. And only ~$50 minimum per dinner ...

Re: Future IETF Meetings

2003-12-03 Thread Spencer Dawkins
With the current number of practicing IETF vegetarians, I had assumed this was a joke... - Original Message - From: Susan Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michel Py [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:08 AM Subject: RE: Future IETF Meetings

Re: Future IETF Meetings

2003-12-02 Thread Pekka Savola
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 61st IETF meeting will be held over the dates of November 7-12, 2004. The location has not been finalized. How about Minneapolis! At least there's a Subway nearby, and no need (or even desire) to go outside :-) -- Pekka Savola

RE: Future IETF Meetings

2003-12-02 Thread Michel Py
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 61st IETF meeting will be held over the dates of November 7-12, 2004. The location has not been finalized. Pekka Savola wrote: How about Minneapolis! :-D At least there's a Subway nearby, There is also an excellent steak house just the other side of the