RE: HTML forms

2000-07-23 Thread James P. Salsman
Anyone know whether Opera has microphone upload yet? More to the point, does anyone care? Well, sure, Opera probably cares whether they have a feature that Tim Berners-Lee claims is an integral part of the HTML standard, but hasn't yet been implemented by any of their competitors:

RE: HTML forms

2000-07-14 Thread Parkinson, Jonathan
Thanks for the confirmation there Lloyd :) J. --- On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, James P. Salsman wrote: Anyone know whether Opera has microphone upload yet? More to the point, does anyone care? L. [EMAIL

ACCEPT and DEVICE (was Re: HTML forms)

2000-04-01 Thread James P. Salsman
rking group for most of last year -- that they care far more about e-commerce that they should (to the point of wanting to completely overhaul perfectly serviceable HTML forms as the are) and at the same time are seriously neglecting educational needs. ... We've HAD this technical discussion here AGE

Re: support for device upload (was Re: HTML forms)

2000-04-01 Thread Keith Moore
James, bottom line is, this is a W3C matter. you need to convince *them*. Keith

Re: HTML forms

2000-03-31 Thread James P. Salsman
Valdis, Thank you for your reply: When was the last time you bought a microphone/audio card for a system that didn't include at least basic software to do [recording to files]? Not too many months. Try any Linux on any of IBM's PCs with one of their soundcard/modem combinations; you'll

Re: Standards development (was HTML forms)

2000-03-31 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 23:05:01 PST, Walter Ian Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: And to do so does not necessarily require building an entire browser. Since the input "widget" is just one part of a page, you only need to prototype that one widget. You can do it in any RAD environment. Make a

RE: Standards development (was HTML forms)

2000-03-31 Thread James P. Salsman
Jony, Thanks for your message: In my experience, the proper way to develop standards is to begin with a private implementation. Private? Anyone is welcome to my Mozilla mods if they will try to port them to Gecko. Most browsers already implement file upload. The only difficulty is in

Re: HTML forms

2000-03-30 Thread James P. Salsman
Harald, Thanks for your message: There is no procedure to "suspend control of aspects" of a specification, The proposal would involve ammending the registration of the text/html media type, incorporating the W3C standards extended with two attributes of the INPUT element, DEVICE and MAXTIME.

Re: HTML forms

2000-03-30 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:03:07 PST, "James P. Salsman" said: is assured on almost all controversial matters. The W3C, however, constrains meaningful debate to those willing and able to pay US$50,000 per year. I agree that there was a point in the early development of web standards when

Re: HTML forms

2000-03-30 Thread James P. Salsman
Valdis, Thank you for your reply to my message: ... The W3C... constrains meaningful debate to those willing and able to pay US$50,000 per year. I agree that there was a point in the early development of web standards when that constraint was beneficial Why was it beneficial then?

Re: HTML forms

2000-03-30 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:06:44 PST, "James P. Salsman" said: audio conferencing. If you wanted to provide for students on several different platforms, you would have to provide a microphone capture application for each of them. Then, Sounds like a straw man to me. When was the last time

RE: Standards development (was HTML forms)

2000-03-30 Thread Jonathan Rosenne
of writing the standard first is OSI. Jony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 11:47 PM To: James P. Salsman Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HTML

HTML forms

2000-03-29 Thread James P. Salsman
Some educational software advocates and I are considering asking the IETF to suspend control of certain aspects of HTML forms from the W3C until microphone upload issues are addressed. I am very interested in any public comments and private opinions on this matter. Please follow up or reply

Re: HTML forms

2000-03-29 Thread Murray Altheim
"James P. Salsman" wrote: Some educational software advocates and I are considering asking the IETF to suspend control of certain aspects of HTML forms from the W3C until microphone upload issues are addressed. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Gad. Get a life. Really. I'm gone a month fro

Re: HTML forms

2000-03-29 Thread James Salsman
Murray, Thank you for the substance of your debate: ... Get a life A life is best given with education (Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 27.) If microphone upload were prevalent, would asynchronous audio conferencing make spoken language instruction easier enough to help

Re: HTML forms

2000-03-29 Thread Harald Alvestrand
At 16:52 29.03.00 -0800, James P. Salsman wrote: Some educational software advocates and I are considering asking the IETF to suspend control of certain aspects of HTML forms from the W3C until microphone upload issues are addressed. No matter what may be thought of the merits of the case