Re: Hashing spam

2003-12-19 Thread jfcm
On 04:19 19/12/03, Keith Moore said: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It just strikes me as highly unlikely that a WG would ever change course because of what would look like random comments from outsiders -- it's not consistent with the dynamics of a WG, or with human nature. and that just might b

Re: Hashing spam

2003-12-18 Thread Keith Moore
It just strikes me as highly unlikely that a WG would ever change course because of what would look like random comments from outsiders -- it's not consistent with the dynamics of a WG, or with human nature. and that just might be one of our biggest problems, in a nutshell.

Re: Hashing spam

2003-12-18 Thread Keith Moore
But often the failure to accept clues from "outsiders" causes working groups to do harm I don't believe this is true, for any normal definition of "often". "Occasionally" might be believable. if I look at why working groups do harm, the failure to accept clues from outsiders does seem to crop up

Re: Hashing spam

2003-12-18 Thread kent
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:39:58PM -0500, Keith Moore wrote: > The problem with this analysis is that it assigns greater value to > contributions from subscribers than to contributions from > non-subscribers. But often the failure to accept clues from > "outsiders" causes working groups to do h

Re: Hashing spam

2003-12-18 Thread Keith Moore
The problem with this analysis is that it assigns greater value to contributions from subscribers than to contributions from non-subscribers. But often the failure to accept clues from "outsiders" causes working groups to do harm - and filtering messages in the #2 category increases this tende

Re: Hashing spam

2003-12-18 Thread Vernon Schryver
> From: John Stracke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I work on an approach to block spam with a database of hash (md5) string of > >spam email: > ... > It's been done, and the spammers have already evolved to get around it: > they randomize the messages so that the hashes don't match. Unless you are mea

Re: Hashing spam

2003-12-18 Thread John Stracke
escom wrote: I work on an approach to block spam with a database of hash (md5) string of spam email: 1) Reporting a "verified" spam to the database server on the web 2) the mail client check incoming mail, generate a hash string send to and verify the presence on the server, is yes block email. 3)

Re: Hashing spam

2003-12-18 Thread Vernon Schryver
> From: "escom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I work on an approach to block spam with a database of hash (md5) string of > spam email: > 1) Reporting a "verified" spam to the database server on the web > 2) the mail client check incoming mail, generate a hash string send to and > verify the presence on t

Re: Hashing spam

2003-12-18 Thread Joe Abley
On 18 Dec 2003, at 13:10, escom wrote: I work on an approach to block spam with a database of hash (md5) string of spam email: 1) Reporting a "verified" spam to the database server on the web 2) the mail client check incoming mail, generate a hash string send to and verify the presence on the se

Hashing spam

2003-12-18 Thread escom
I work on an approach to block spam with a database of hash (md5) string of spam email: 1) Reporting a "verified" spam to the database server on the web 2) the mail client check incoming mail, generate a hash string send to and verify the presence on the server, is yes block email. 3) download a ho