Re: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPRrules)

2009-11-27 Thread Alexey Melnikov
John-Luc Bakker wrote: Dear all, With regard to the recent discussion regarding RIM's recent IPR disclosures, I understand the community's concerns regarding the timeliness of the disclosure. As employees of companies we are bound by confidentiality obligations and, in addition, cannot always

Re: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPRrules)

2009-11-27 Thread Dave CROCKER
Alexey Melnikov wrote: John-Luc, I would like to understand if RIM's recent IPR disclosures affect general use of application/3gpp-ims+xml, or only its specific use as described in draft-bakker-sipping-3gpp-ims-xml-body-handling. Thank you, Alexey P.S. I understand that my question might

Re: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPRrules)

2009-11-24 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
On 19 Nov 2009, at 19:32, Dan Wing wrote: Rescinding RFCs-to-be only based on late disclosures may set a precedence for the future we may not like. Doing so would provide an incentive for the patent holder to delay disclosure until after the RFC is issued. IETF lacks a censure policy for

RE: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPRrules)

2009-11-19 Thread Dan Wing
Rescinding RFCs-to-be only based on late disclosures may set a precedence for the future we may not like. Doing so would provide an incentive for the patent holder to delay disclosure until after the RFC is issued. IETF lacks a censure policy for such violations. Maybe we need one. -d

RE: RIM patents using a mime body in a message (and ignores IETF IPRrules)

2009-11-19 Thread John-Luc Bakker
Dear all, With regard to the recent discussion regarding RIM's recent IPR disclosures, I understand the community's concerns regarding the timeliness of the disclosure. As employees of companies we are bound by confidentiality obligations and, in addition, cannot always control our company's