Re: Wireless at IETF

2006-01-19 Thread Sam Hartman
Hi. I'd just like to speak in favor of anonymous Internet. Yes there needs to be a balance, but honestly, if there wern't ways to get anonymous internet I'd consider it a big problem. ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

Re: Wireless at IETF

2006-01-19 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sam Hartman writes: Hi. I'd just like to speak in favor of anonymous Internet. Yes there needs to be a balance, but honestly, if there wern't ways to get anonymous internet I'd consider it a big problem. Strong second. --Steven M. Bellovin,

Re: Wireless at IETF

2006-01-18 Thread Ted Faber
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 10:30:31AM -0800, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: The result is that 70% of wireless access points are open and can be used by Internet criminals to achieve anonymous access. Loaded statement? Check. Precise statement? Check. Supported statement? H. -- Ted Faber

Re: Wireless at IETF

2006-01-18 Thread Ted Faber
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 02:23:49PM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ted Faber writes: On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 10:30:31AM -0800, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: The result is that 70% of wireless access points are open and can be used by Internet criminals to

RE: Wireless at IETF

2006-01-18 Thread Dassa
| -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | On Behalf Of Ted Faber | Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:57 AM | To: ietf@ietf.org | Subject: Re: Wireless at IETF | | On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 10:30:31AM -0800, Hallam-Baker, | Phillip wrote: | The result

Re: Wireless at IETF

2006-01-18 Thread Joe Abley
On 18-Jan-2006, at 15:35, Dassa wrote: I don't see the 70% of access points being open actually. My own figures indicate less than 20% within the local area, information from capital cities tends to suggest a slightly higher figure but certainly not that high. It depends a lot on the

RE: Wireless at IETF

2006-01-18 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Faber On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 02:23:49PM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ted Faber writes: On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 10:30:31AM -0800, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: The result is that

Re: Wireless at IETF

2006-01-18 Thread Ted Faber
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 02:25:56PM -0800, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: Well, none of it's supported. Your statement above about informal measurements is support for your statement of 70% and indirectly of his. The figure came from a presentation at an (anti-) Internet crime meeting. I

Re: Wireless at IETF

2006-01-16 Thread Brett Thorson
2 parts to this message, read it all for twice the fun :-) Given the amount of damage due to time wasted for other participants, it might be worthwhile to print it up ahead of time and include it in the registration packet. The cost of a ream of paper is small relative to the lost

Re: Wireless at IETF

2006-01-15 Thread Marshall Eubanks
This gives a summary : http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/01/windows_feature.html Regards Marshall On Jan 15, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Henning Schulzrinne wrote: http://www.nmrc.org/pub/present/shmoocon-2006-sn.ppt describes what seems to explain the appearance of IETF6x named

Re: Wireless at IETF

2006-01-15 Thread Marshall Eubanks
I think (and suggested to the IAOC) that there should be an information sheet and / or web site for each meeting with information on how to determine Ad Hoc Mode, how to turn it off, etc., for all major OS choices. Regards Marshall On Jan 15, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:

Re: Wireless at IETF

2006-01-15 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 10:10 PM +0100 1/15/06, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: Suggestion: Make instructions *with screenshots* of how to turn off ad hoc mode on Windows XP available at the next IETF. Given the amount of damage due to time wasted for other participants, it might be worthwhile to print it up ahead

Re: Wireless at IETF

2006-01-15 Thread Joe Abley
On 15-Jan-2006, at 17:33, Paul Hoffman wrote: At 10:10 PM +0100 1/15/06, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: Suggestion: Make instructions *with screenshots* of how to turn off ad hoc mode on Windows XP available at the next IETF. Given the amount of damage due to time wasted for other

Re: Wireless @ D.C. IETF

1999-10-12 Thread Brian Lloyd
At 01:45 PM 10/12/99 -0700, Stuart Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll give you a free Wireless Access Point(10BaseT to wireless ethernet bridge) and a PCMCIA Wireless NIC if you can provide a functioning driver by 8:00am on Sunday Nov. 6th for one of the following platforms MacOS (PowerPC,