Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-05 Thread l...@pi.nu
All, It is up to the sponsoring AD to decide on the review process. The mpls wg co-chairs will discuss this this week, and we'll let the AD know what we think. With my wg chair hat off I have to say that more review is better than less. I assume that the will inform us of the review process as

Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-05 Thread Azhar Sayeed
Shouldn't this document be referred to MPLS WG and PWE3 WG so that we can discuss the merits and demerits of allocating yet another request for the code point... The name of the document suggests it has to do with the official ITU request for a code point ..but nowhere in the document does it ac

Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-04 Thread t.petch
ext t.petch [mailto:daedu...@btconnect.com] Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 7:44 PM To: Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon); stbry...@cisco.com; Adrian Farrel Cc: iesg; ietf Subject: Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt - Original Message - From: "Sprec

RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-04 Thread Weingarten, Yaacov (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
tworks -Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Huub helvoort Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 11:17 PM To: Adrian Farrel Cc: draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-po...@tools.ietf.org; The IESG; Ietf@ietf.org Subject: Request to publish draft-betts-i

RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-03 Thread Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
PM To: Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon); stbry...@cisco.com; Adrian Farrel Cc: iesg; ietf Subject: Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt - Original Message - From: "Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)" To: ; "Adrian Farrel" Cc:

Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-03 Thread t.petch
raft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-po...@tools.ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; > Ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Re: Request to publish > draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt > > Adrian > > "It is the opinion of the document shepherd that discussion of > this document on the worki

RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-03 Thread Adrian Farrel
tu-oam-ach-code-po...@tools.ietf.org; The IESG; Ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt > > Document Writeup for draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt > > As required by RFC-to-be draft-iesg-sponsoring-guidelines, this is the &g

RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-03 Thread Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
6:07 PM To: stbry...@cisco.com; Adrian Farrel Cc: draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-po...@tools.ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; Ietf@ietf.org Subject: RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt Hi, I fully support Stewart! G.8113.1 proposes a OAM solution for MPLS-TP networks. It use

RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-03 Thread Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
: Adrian Farrel Cc: draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-po...@tools.ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; Ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt Adrian "It is the opinion of the document shepherd that discussion of this document on the working group lists would

RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-02 Thread Kyung-Yeop Hong (hongk)
oun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John E Drake Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 7:17 AM To: Huub helvoort; Adrian Farrel Cc: itu-t-liais...@iab.org; draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-po...@tools.ietf.org; The IESG; Ietf@ietf.org Subject: RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-co

Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-02 Thread Stewart Bryant
On 02/12/2011 13:29, t.petch wrote: Original Message - From: "Thomas Nadeau" To: "Huub helvoort" Cc: "Adrian Farrel"; ; "The IESG" ; Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 2:40 PM I disagree with the document shepherd's evaluation of this document. This document sets out to standardize an ad

Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-02 Thread t.petch
Original Message - From: "Thomas Nadeau" To: "Huub helvoort" Cc: "Adrian Farrel" ; ; "The IESG" ; Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 2:40 PM > > I disagree with the document shepherd's evaluation of this document. This document sets out to > standardize an additional code point to support

Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-02 Thread Thomas Nadeau
I disagree with the document shepherd's evaluation of this document. This document sets out to standardize an additional code point to support a type of OAM for MPLS, and as such the MPLS WG must review the document for technical correctness. As far as I understand things, all MPLS d

RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-02 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, December 02, 2011 04:17 -0800 John E Drake wrote: > Huub, > > In your email, below, you state: > > "This protocol has been defined in the ITU-T and should not be > considered to be a MPLS protocol and therefore should not > subject to the provisions of RFC 4929." >... > Doesn't t

RE: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-02 Thread John E Drake
drian Farrel > Cc: draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-po...@tools.ietf.org; The IESG; > Ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt > > Document Writeup for draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt > > As required by RFC-to-be draft-iesg

Re: Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-02 Thread Stewart Bryant
Adrian "It is the opinion of the document shepherd that discussion of this document on the working group lists would be a distraction from the technical protocol work that the working groups need to do." I disagree with the document shepherd in his evaluation. The draft clearly sets out to enab

Request to publish draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt

2011-12-01 Thread Huub helvoort
Document Writeup for draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-01.txt As required by RFC-to-be draft-iesg-sponsoring-guidelines, this is the current template for the Document Shepherd Write-Up for individual submissions via the IESG. Changes are expected over time. This version is dated February 5, 2007