"J. Noel Chiappa" wrote:
>
> > From: "Brijesh Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Oh, I can't resist:
>
> > You haven't given a single technical argument that will convince
> > system experts in these big corporations that they have dug
> > themselves a "very nice hole". The meaningl
> From: "Brijesh Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Oh, I can't resist:
> You haven't given a single technical argument that will convince
> system experts in these big corporations that they have dug
> themselves a "very nice hole". The meaningless rhetoric "WAP is bad"
> doesn't co
> You haven't given a single technical argument that will convince
> system experts in these big corporations that they have dug themselves
> a "very nice hole". The meaningless rhetoric "WAP is bad" doesn't
> convince any one.
The problem that WAP has is that it is not used for end to end
connec
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Subject: RE: end-to-end w/i-Mode? (was Re: imode far superior to wap)
> -Original Message-
> From: John Day [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> >Who cares what protocol a device runs as long as it delivers the
> >application that satisfies its intended user
> -Original Message-
> From: John Day [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> >Who cares what protocol a device runs as long as it delivers the
> >application that satisfies its intended users? Most subscribers
> >couldn't care less if i-mode used CLNP and TP4 instead of IP and
TCP.
> >i-mode is in
At 8:00 PM -0700 8/10/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Well, there is a big difference between WAP's breaking the e2e model
> > > and i-mode. WAP does an application gateway and uses no Internet
> > > protocols. At least, i-mode is using IP, TCP, HTTP, etc.
>
> > Who cares what protocol a
Ned;
> > > Well, there is a big difference between WAP's breaking the e2e model
> > > and i-mode. WAP does an application gateway and uses no Internet
> > > protocols. At least, i-mode is using IP, TCP, HTTP, etc.
>
> > Who cares what protocol a device runs as long as it delivers the
> > appli
> > Well, there is a big difference between WAP's breaking the e2e model
> > and i-mode. WAP does an application gateway and uses no Internet
> > protocols. At least, i-mode is using IP, TCP, HTTP, etc.
> Who cares what protocol a device runs as long as it delivers the
> application that satisf
> -Original Message-
> From: John Day [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >
> >No. it's the world's biggest NAT, and NAT *breaks the end-to-end
> >model of IP*.
>
> Well, there is a big difference between WAP's breaking the e2e model
> and i-mode. WAP does an application gateway and uses no Inte
At 12:20 PM +0100 8/10/00, Lloyd Wood wrote:
>On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, James P. Salsman wrote:
>
> > >... breaks the end-to-end model of IP (as Imode and WAP do as they are
> > > implemented today).
> >
> > WAP does, but apparently i-Mode does not.
>
>No. it's the world's biggest NAT, and NAT *brea
>... breaks the end-to-end model of IP (as Imode and WAP do as they are
> implemented today).
WAP does, but apparently i-Mode does not. The i-Mode vendors claim
that you can plug your laptop into your i-Mode phone in Japan (and get
speeds far faster than 9600 bps on newer phones), and someone
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