RE: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-10 Thread Glen Zorn
... [gwz] (I wonder how much the costs would go down if the meeting ended at 4PM Thursday instead of noon on Friday, and there was only one plenary night on Wednesday.) [gwz] [gwz] Probably not at all. I only have experience with sponsoring one IETF, but in that case ( I believe generally) the

RE: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread Eric Gray (LO/EUS)
Gray Principal Engineer Ericsson -Original Message- From: YAO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 7:03 AM To: IETF Secretariat; ietf@ietf.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF

Re: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread Andy Bierman
Adrian Farrel wrote: We shall see, but I don't know that putting up the price necessarily fixes the registration income issue. You only have to deter a relatively small proportion of attendees to wipe out the increase in charge. I assume that the converse is also being applied: viz. cutting

Re: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 07:03:03PM +0800, YAO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 71 lines which said: the price of ticket to join the IETF is not to encourage the individual with little dollars and small company to join the IETF. I agree. Raising the ticket price is to raise the

Re: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread Lars Eggert
See the recent email on ietf-announce: Begin forwarded message: From: ext Kurt Erik Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 4, 2007 17:13:49 GMT+03:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: IAOC Jabberr [EMAIL PROTECTED], ietf@ietf.org, IESG \(\(E-mail\) \) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Vancouver meeting

joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread YAO
the early-bird price of USD 700.00. After Early-Bird cutoff - USD 850.00 so expensive. joining the IETF is luxury for individual. IETF should not take the money from the individual pocket. and should absorb more finance support from big company Why is it so expensive? IETF lives in

Re: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread James Carlson
YAO writes: joining the IETF is luxury for individual. [...] it seems that IETF is becoming a wealthy club. I agree it's a shame, but I disagree with your conclusions. The IETF isn't a membership organization. You don't pay any dues to belong to it, and there's no requirement to go to any

Re: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread Adrian Farrel
We shall see, but I don't know that putting up the price necessarily fixes the registration income issue. You only have to deter a relatively small proportion of attendees to wipe out the increase in charge. I assume that the converse is also being applied: viz. cutting meeting costs. It's

Re: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread Simon Josefsson
James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: YAO writes: joining the IETF is luxury for individual. [...] it seems that IETF is becoming a wealthy club. I agree it's a shame, but I disagree with your conclusions. The IETF isn't a membership organization. You don't pay any dues to belong to

Re: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Sep 7, 2007, at 12:09 PM, Glen Zorn wrote: ... [gwz] (I wonder how much the costs would go down if the meeting ended at 4PM Thursday instead of noon on Friday, and there was only one plenary night on Wednesday.) [gwz] [gwz] Probably not at all. I only have experience with sponsoring one

Re: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread Bob Braden
* * The official business of the IETF is still conducted -- for free and * without discrimination -- on open mailing lists. I hope it always * remains that way. * Unfortuantley, a lot of experience in the Internet community has shown us that it is very difficult to reach actual

RE: joining the IETF is luxury Re: 70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-07 Thread Darryl \(Dassa\) Lynch
Adrian Farrel wrote: We shall see, but I don't know that putting up the price necessarily fixes the registration income issue. You only have to deter a relatively small proportion of attendees to wipe out the increase in charge. I assume that the converse is also being applied: viz.